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Discussion in 'General Yachting Discussion' started by Yorksafloat, Jan 19, 2010.

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  1. Yorksafloat

    Yorksafloat New Member

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    Can anyone recommend a good boatyard in Turkey? We need to have the entire hull sandblasted and sealed and epoxy coated and then a good bottom paint. While we're doing it we will also want to grind/sandblast the superstructure and repaint the rest of the exterior of the boat.
    We're a 55' trawler (about 110,000 lbs in the slings).
    The original yard that did our work did a pretty minimal job and it really needs to be completely redone and redone right.
    Thanks.
    Jim
  2. nilo

    nilo Senior Member

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    Where is your boat in Turkey? Are you on the south coast or close to Istanbul or on the west coast?
  3. Henning

    Henning Senior Member

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    If you want it redone right, you ship it to Ft Lauderdale and have Tung Luu do it. Luu's Yacht Refinishing, google him up, he's the best in the business and won't turn your boat out until it's right, even if it means painting it 3 times. It will also be as fair as it gets.
  4. Yorksafloat

    Yorksafloat New Member

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    We're in South America at the moment but are planning to be in Turkey by the end of the summer.
  5. vivariva

    vivariva Senior Member

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    Our boat's berth is at the new Didim-D-Marin Marina between Cesme and Bodrum. They have a good yard with two cranes one up to 100 tons and the second up to 400.

    They have the square footage and people who are qualified for the sandblasting work. For repairs, I'm sure they can make arrangements.

    Also, there are many yards in Tuzla, Istanbul in greater numbers. As Nilo has asked, could you be more specific in regards to the possible location?
  6. Liam

    Liam Senior Member

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    I know of a big Buddy Davis 74 Custom cold molded which was repainted in Turkey the last Summer, and all its paint was all blistering up just three months afterwards.
    The crew actually told me putting in it the trip and the costs, and the fact that they soon will have to repaint, it just costed double
    Can't remember the name of the yard or the place but...
  7. JWY

    JWY Senior Member

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    Yorksafloat's trawler is steel.

    J & L --

    Glad to see you on the cruise to goal fulfillment. Be sure to post where you end up getting the paint and how it turns out. I'm sure you'll be able to contribute lots of significant posts during your circumnavigation. Look forward to hearing of the adventures.

    Be safe and happy travels!

    Judy
  8. vivariva

    vivariva Senior Member

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    Dear Yorksafloat,

    I have made the below list for a similar post about a year ago. I thought it might help in your research for the upcoming summer. These are the shipyards and builder companies/brands that could help you in Turkey for the hull work on your boat. You could google them to find their contact information.

    I. Yildiz Shipyard
    II. Turkuaz Proteksan
    III. RMK Shipyard (Oyster Joint Venture)
    IV. Dünya Yachts
    V. Vicem Yachts
    VI. Numarine
    VII. Elegan Yatcilik
    VIII. Marintek
    IX. Yonca Onuk Shipyard
    X. Orucoglu Shipyard
    XI. Peri Yachts
    XII. Notika
    XIII. Yeneryat
    XIV. Egeyat
    XV. Samim Baki
    XVI. Yay Gemi
    XVII. Celik Yat
    XVIII. Ada Boatyard
    XIX. Algomar
    XX. Ares Yachts
    XXI. Bromar Yachts/ Yatcilik
    XXII. Cobra Yachting
    XXIII. CMB Yachts /Yatcilik
    XXIV. Enma Marine
    XXV. Evadne Yachts
    XXVI. Gorbon Yachts
    XXVII. Lahur Marine
    XXVIII. Logos Marine
    XXIX. Mastori Yachts
    XXX. MAT
    XXXI. Orion Yatcilik
    XXXII. Safter Marin
    XXXIII. Sirena Marine
    XXXIV. Vanelli Yachts

    If you're planning to consider Didim Marina, please PM me as I can give more detailed information about it.
  9. apex1

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    I. Yildiz Shipyard-------------is a shipyard, not recommended for your Yacht
    II. Turkuaz Proteksan-------is a Builder, no repairs. And named Turquoise.
    III. RMK Shipyard (Oyster Joint Venture)------ is a Builder and a shipyard, no repairs.
    IV. Dünya Yachts -----same as Proteksan
    V. Vicem Yachts-----Is a Builder in Wood Epoxy and GRP, no repair facilities.

    IX. Yonca Onuk Shipyard---- as the name says!
    X. Orucoglu Shipyard------as the name says!

    XII. Notika-------Is a Builder, in GRP, no repair facilities.

    XIV. Egeyat-----as Notika


    Regards
    Richard
  10. Fishtigua

    Fishtigua Senior Member

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    Just a quick thought, in the 'London Times' holiday section this week, it is cheaper to holiday or stay in Italy at the moment than Turkey. Even though Turkey is outside the Eurozone currency, the new Lira is damaged by import duties for products.

    Worth a thought.

    If nilo or vivariva know better, please let us know. Is it worthwhile getting a fixed price job done?
  11. vivariva

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    Dear Fishtigua,

    Nilo could answer this in a much better way but I'll give my opinion:

    1. Depending on the origin of manufacture of a product, its import duties will change accordingly. I say this because of the customs agreement between the European Union and Turkey. Turkey does not charge import duties to EU products.

    2. The Turkish Lira is currently over-valued (about 5-7 percent) slightly against the Euro. I know this information will be out-of-date in a short time, but I'll write it anyway: Possible IMF Standby agreement signing might keep or increase the Lira's value even a bit further against the EUR for the foreseeable future.
    Foreign currency trading for the USD and EUR are very dependent on economic news coming from abroad.

    3. Basically, your costs will consist of labor, crane work and materials+yard usage for this repair. I can not say much about each yards' specific costs. However, the materials are in higher demand from their importers during the summer months and might become more expensive. Taking everything into account, as the yards will get busier during April and May when the boats will be applied with their anti-fouling and getting ready for the summer, this might be a more advantageous time than in 6 months.

    4. Turkey has lower labor costs than most EU countries (not all though); the January 2009 minimum wage is about 665L (317 EUR). A fixed job might be disadvantageous in terms of currency right now but great fluctuations are not expected for the foreseeable future. This depends on which country are you comparing the costs to, right?

    Note: Someone in finance is predicting 1.43-1.45 for EUR/USD rates in the upcoming 6 months, while another is warning against 1.60-1.65 in April-May.
    It is very difficult to predict because of too many variables.

    In conclusion, I believe it is worthwhile because of a high number of alternative yards.
    Note: There is a boat show in Istanbul in February (Why is it that I am always writing about boat shows in YF?) I would recommend going to meet the yards.

    Regards
  12. Fishtigua

    Fishtigua Senior Member

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    Thank you vivariva.

    This is the kind of information YF is famous for internationally.

    Its very hot in late summer in Eastern Turkey, are the Epoxys going to work well (from my very limited experience)?

    The boat needs to dry-out for a while for the laminate to accept the epoxy without moisture intruding. Any recommandtions weatherwise?
  13. apex1

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    Yes it is.

    The job is substantially lower priced than in the US or W. Europe, at the same level of quality.

    And the Times made a very broad statement imho. Although living in Istanbul is noticeable more expensive than in Germany, the cost for a tourist is lower than in Italy.

    Regards
    Richard
  14. vivariva

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    I should thank you; for reading what I'd wrote.

    Eastern Turkey is a mountainous region with a harsh climate during the summer and winter.

    However, the locations for the yard work will be near the provinces of Istanbul, Yalova (Northwest)- Antalya, Bodrum, Cesme (Southwest and west for Cesme) so climate-wise it should not be a problem after April. Only during July and August the temperature will exceed a 30C average. (Usually 32-33 degrees Celsius)

    The two climates are very different (East-West). For the dry-out process, I think from May onwards it is possible to carry it out.You can find a week-10 day dry weather to apply the epoxy (I do not have much experience on hull applications). For the application's success, I am not the best person to be asked.
  15. captainJJ

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    The boat in question is Steel you will probably have the chance of getting some proper primers outside of the EU, you have agood choice of yards to checkout probably worth a visit before commiting