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2020 Bertram 61

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  1. wiredup

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    Anyone have experience with the new line of Bertrams, especially the 61? I can't find any real world reviews of the boat as there are not many around. There is one on the market now. Love the interior as it's almost a cross between a cruising MY and a sportfish. Am concerned about build quality, engineering, serviceability, and resale value.
  2. Tom Childs

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    I can’t give you any real world scoop other than the money behind this incarnation of Bertram is committed to return Bertram back to the battle wagon performance an reputation that was taken out of them when Ferretti owned them. That being said the new owners only bought the name and the goodwill reputation. There were no molds…. They had to start from scratch. As the 35 is an homage to the 31, the 61 is an homage to the 54 (mine :)). Call me if you want me to get you in touch with the peeps at the factory. Would be interested in what you find out. Tom
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    I can't offer any insights but it always makes me skeptical when someone is selling something fairly new. So I would try to find out if there is a compelling story behind the sale that isn't related to the boat itself.
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    Interesting they did not have the molds, I was hoping perhaps they modified the infamous 54 hull. Starting from scratch brings in the ride factor. I have not looked into the naval architect involved. I had heard of a few issues (can't remember specifics) with hull #1. I am coming from a 2008 60' Hatteras and multiple carolina boats, so have learned what to look for with engineering systems. I am slowing down some with my offshore fishing, and am even contemplating MY's in the future, and the 61 design inside is great.
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    I agree, but seems it happens all the time. Especially with custom boats, which is wacky. Jaruco, the 90' Jarrett Bay is for sale and the owners spent years and millions designing the boat. Same has happened with New Bayliss' and the new 65 Hatteras GT's which 2 are back on the market that are either '20 or '21 model year.
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    Michael Peters Yacht Design did the design work for the 35, 50 express and 61. Full disclaimer I haven't ridden on any of the new Bertrams my only experience is with our Michael Peters designed hulls and thus far they have been fantastic. I have no reason to think the 61 would be a bad performing boat. My personal opinion is the reason you don't see more Bertram's on the water is they entered the market in a segment largely dominated by Viking and they haven't launched enough of them yet to make the rounds on the tournament circuit. I like the interior of the 61 it definitely has a nice open feel to it.
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    Hatteras is having the same problem with new owners, great new models, but not many out there, and warranty concerns with both companies longevity is questionable. I am going to be looking at 62' Vikings after the new year. I like the interior of the Bertram better.
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    Then step up on and look the new Bertram over. Please let us in on what you find.

    Sadly, the old Bertram company and old models are gone. Just nostalgia. Not real modern or efficient anyway. Just battle ship tough and would last. I'm still pushing my 43 year old 58.
    I have not been on any of the new Bertram boats yet myself. But if I could shop, I certainly would give them a good look.

    Hatts and Vikings are not battleships anymore either.
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    My father had a 28' Bertram from 1984 to 1994, so familiar with the old models. Was a great boat!
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    Nice layout in salon, I would work in a lower steering station with that forward glass.
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  11. Gary Chiles

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    I am currently restoring and repowering a 28 foot 1974 hardtop convertible, I am almost finished with the repowering portion, I took 2 mercedes 300d turbo engines, went through them from crank to turbo, found a company that makes a conversion kit in the Netherlands, Am utilizing heat exchangers and coolers ( so NO salt water touches these engines). Hooked them to heavy duty borg warner 72 series trannys, (the boat is twins, shaft drive) and so far ,so good, the initial sea trial was successful with a couple of hiccups, but have to still tune the props, can send pictures of the project if anyones interested!
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    These projects are always welcome. Please open a new thread and fill up YFs server drives with pictures and notes.
    Remember to keep them down to around 650 pixels so the kids on the slower ships (bandwidth) hook-ups can enjoy them.
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    Bertram is since 2015 owned by Gavio, who also owns Baglietto and Cerri, Italian custom super yacht builders. With Bertram Gavio is taking a full American approach with all designs coming from Michael Peters.
    Gavio started with a clean state, they are doing well mostly with the 35 (over 50 sold) and the centre consoles which debuted in 2020. The 39 has sold like 30 units, and the 28 is also doing very well.
    The 50 and 61 are small sellers. I think they are at the eight hull on the 61, and five hulls for the 50 which is still not bad.
    The 35 which is the most long model they had are keep prices very well, and have heard good reviews about them.

    They are doing a very good job, though dominating or being a hot seller will be very difficult cause of Viking dominance of the Sportfish market.

    Since that Bertram is sold by Galati it most probably is a trade-in or an interest for a larger Viking. If it was a warranty issue I would suspect it would have been sold by Denison who are Bertram dealers on the East Coast.
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  14. Capt J

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    Hatteras has launched a decent amount of Sportfish, do yourself a favor and look at the 59' GT and 65' Carolina. Both are very high quality and a better ride than the equivalent sized Vikings. As far as the Bertram, my friend worked on a couple of them. They have some teething issues as far as quality is concerned. Non skid was tacky on one boat and had to be painted again after it left the factory, some issues with engine room flooring and other little items. I've never been on the later ones.
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  15. wiredup

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    I am coming out of a 2008 Hatteras 60gt, so I agree they are great boats. I want to get into something newer and am looking at the Viking 62's. I really like the interior of the new bertram with the 360 view, layout, etc. I was wondering if you had heard anything on these new ones, sounds like no. I would step to the 65' Hatt GT that's on the market, but it's beyond my budget.