My default plan was to move my boat from the Caribbean to CA before hurricane season. I have been encouraged to consider taking it north instead. I have some flexibility and open to ideas. However, a quick check of transient dock prices in New York and Boston look pretty outrageous for an 85'... in the range of $8-10K/month. Are the actual prices much better than that? Recommendations? Thanks!
There are a lot of good marinas in the NE besides NYC & Boston where dockage is very limited. I also suspect that the transit will be cheaper, and the cruising grounds are pretty good. Do you need to be in a big city? What is your criteria? Docking in both cities tends to be bouncy which is another good reason to go elsewhere.
NYCAP thanks for your reply... Besides good cruising areas, my only must-have criteria is I would prioritize around airport access since I will have to fly back and forth from CA. Other than that, I would appreciate any recommendations for great cruising areas. When on the boat, we prefer to anchor at night and we are into all sorts of watersports. Thanks!
It's actually faster to get to JFK & LGA from Long Island and Westchester than NYC (traffic). There is also Islip-MacArthur on L.I. Not sure about the airports in Connecticut and Rhode Island (probably Boston, Hartford, JFK & LGA), but that's easy enough to check. Great ports of call in the area are NYC, Hudson River, Sag Harbor, Pt. Jefferson, Montauk, Connecticut River, Thames River (casino), Newport, Block Island, Martha's Vineyard, Nantucket, Boston. Gardner's and Peconic Bays on L.I. are great for water-sports and gunk holing. You can get moorings at Sag Harbor, Pt. Jefferson, Nantucket and the Vineyard and can anchor out in probably 100 or more great, safe locations. An added plus is that the bay water is in the low 70's by mid summer. P.S. All of the places mentioned are accessible with technically never touching the ocean although some areas you'll cross are directly open to the Atlantic. Wow, don't I sound like the tour guide.
There's Westchester Airport in Purchase NY. From there its only a short drive to many Marinas in Rye and Port Chester NY, Greenwich, Stanford, and Even Norwalk Ct. From there its about 160 miles to Nantucket and some of the best cruising in America!
I think it would be a great idea to run the boat North. But why not head North with the season. Spend a month in the South. GA, Hilton Head, Charleston, then head north. Spend a month in the Chesapeake, Baltimore would be nice. Spend a month in the NYC area, do the Hudson, Hell's Gate, then up to New England and spend a few months in Martha's Vineyard, Nantucket, Cape Cod, Maine is beautiful too.......Many options, and there are plenty of nice marina's outside of NYC and Boston that are much cheaper and close to major airports.
There are quite a few marinas in Mystic (we used to be at Seaport Marine, now part of Noank Shipyard), Noank, Stonington (friends kept an 84' Grand Alaskan at Dodson's), and Pawcatuck CT, as well as up the Hudson... Julius Petersen in Nyack and Haverstraw Marina in Haverstraw come to mind for bigger boats.
If you enjoy anchoring out, you may consider a mooring. The 70 footer i run spends the summer on a mooring in nantucket and it works out very well for the owner. Last year, I installed an inverter with large battery bank and the genny only needs to be run 3 to 4 hours a day to recharge, run the watermaker, etc... significantly cheaper than a slip and many prefer the privacy of a mooring. Most mooring fields in the NE have launch service, even deliveries sometimes, etc... If you prefer a slip (or if the boat is left unattended for long period of time) then you may want to start looking at which airport you can find flights too. For instance, if you can find convenient flights to Providence, then Newport and other marinas up the bay will be cheaper than NY or Boston and still convenient, putting you halfway between the cape / islands, and LIS.
Well, at least I'm not the only tour guide. The fact is that once you hit NY there's a nice spot to hit (even for 85') about every 10 miles, give or take, all the way to Nantucket or Boston with no ocean inlets to deal with. The suggestion of doing the coast a month at a time is also a good one.
Thanks guys for the replies. Yes if I headed north, then I would take it up the coast with the season. I will look into marinas some more... I do need to leave it for a week or so at a time. My first pass seemed to indicate that transient marina prices were really outrageous. First, headed (from FL) to BVI next week!
Although I don't pay the bills I'd have to assume the rates are comparable to south Florida in high season. On my run down the coast last fall I was often paying about $2 per ft. a night or less if that helps you. I would suggest that calling now you're going to get the published rate whereas if you call in April for May, June for July, etc. you may hear something entirely different given current circumstances, especially if your slip will be vacant on weekends.
I want to also Thank you all for the info. As I am from the West coast I am taking my boat up the East coast before bringing it back to the NW. We are currently in Savannah then over to Hilton head in a few weeks. Any special place or neet things to see or do?
Love the hush puppies @ HH. Make a swing over Beaufort,S.C. Very pretty little town with charming residents. It's where they filmed Cape Fear and the great Santini. Well worth a day or two. They're serious about their speed retrictions between the bridges in Beaufort so keep it way down. BTW, on the way over to HH watch for crab traps mid-channel.
nycap, on average the NE seems to be more expensinve . not a big difference on transient, maybe $1 a foot more, but monthly in most of So. Florida is around $30/35 a ft a month on a monthly basis even in winter. Annual is obviously cheaper. Scott lots of great stop along the east coast... where do we start? Savanah is one my favorite, I usually stop at the Market Street docks. great location for a couple of days and the wakes are not as bad as some claim. many nice little southern town to stop at, like Beaufort, Southport, Oriental etc... Charleston obviously, the city marina is conveniently located. my favorite anchorage is Cape Look Out bight, NC. take the tender to the lighthouse, beach and looking for wild horses on the Shaclekford Banks. first north, Annapolis alone makes it worth the extra miles up the Cheasapeake instead of the ocean run. many nice little towns along the bay as well. Then as much as i hate to admit it in front of a New Yorker nothing comes close to entering NewYork Harbor, teh view is breathtaking. We usually stop for a night or two at the north cove in lower manhattan, cant' get closer to the city than that. The run up the East River and into LIS is also very scenic...
When you've got a short season and expensive heating, you've got to make it when you can. That said, with transients and boat traffic in general most likely to be significantly down this year, those published rates here in the northeast may have some negotiation room.
short season? yeah... you can't even touch the water without getting frostbites until july! shoudl be called a "mini season", just like they do down here for the lobster season!
Have you felt the water in California? At least the water here comes up from Florida. Theirs comes down from Alaska. Brrrrr. Truthfully though I haven't even tried going into ocean water here since I lived in Florida. That bath water spoils you. Got to the point where I wouldn't even go in there except in summer. Once had a cousin come down here from Maine in November and she went swimming. I froze just watching. Guess it's all what you're used to.
that's why i mentioned it... i flew in and out of PVD last year when i left the boat on the hard for a week at fairhaven, convenient airport, uncongested, etc... the Fairhaven/Bedford area maybe something to consider as well. dockage is probably cheaper, well protected harbor (with hurricane gates). close to PVD and probably within reasonable distance of BOS as well