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Another TNT platform issue…

Discussion in 'Technical Discussion' started by Pascal, Apr 19, 2025.

  1. Pascal

    Pascal Senior Member

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    The second stage of our TNT platform starts sagging on one side after a little while. No external leaks at any hose or fitting

    as a test, we filled the reservoir and placed shop towel around the filler. After an hour the second was down a little and fluid had spilled out of the tank

    I am guessing the valve in the valve block is leaking and allowing fluid to be pushed back under pressure? Can they be disassembled and cleaned ?
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    You are our lift expert,,, Your asking us??
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    Couldn't it also be caused by a bad seal in the sagging cylinder? Possible to cap the lines to that cylinder and retest the block? Perhaps you can further isolate the issue before the dismantling begins?
  4. Pascal

    Pascal Senior Member

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    A bad seal in the cylinder who result in a leak outside the cylinder. It s not the case. The pressure in the cylinder is held at the pump.
  5. Pascal

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    Well I m guessing the pump design is fairly standard, it’s not like TNT makes them. I was hoping someone had disassembled one before
  6. Capt Ralph

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    Well, If the ram piston seal was leaking, the cylinder could sag even though the pump check valve is holding.
    You would never see an external leak.
    I'm assuming 2 line cylinders.
  7. Pascal

    Pascal Senior Member

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    I m no hydraulic expert but whoever I ve had a leak at a piston, it was pretty obvious. Especially above the water with a very obvious sheen

    yes 2 hoses on the cylinder
  8. Capt Ralph

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    Then an internal piston leak is possible.
  9. Pascal

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    If there was an internal leak, the fluid from the up line would leak past a seal into the down line, right? Wouldn’t the valve at the pump prevent fluid from coming back into the reservoir?

    I guess one way to test would be to add valves at the pump outlet to isolate both lines and see if it still drops
  10. Capt Ralph

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    The fluid stays in the cylinder, just leaks to the other side of the ram piston.
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  11. Pascal

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    Yes I get that and from there it would push back in the hose. But to get into the reservoir it would have to go thru the valve block so there would have to be a leak there too

    these pistons are just two years old and so is the pump.
  12. Capt Ralph

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    Your assuming a check valve on both lines?

    Brother, Ya know this means squab.
    How long did that brand new MTU starter motor last after your rebuild?
  13. Pascal

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    I know…. Nothing seem to last anymore. Especially those **** SS braided hoses TNT uses! Had to replace two more with rubber hoses.