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Discussion in 'Engines' started by johnnry, Dec 29, 2024.

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  1. johnnry

    johnnry Member

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    hey men,cant find a MAN or Zf manual that details how to check hydraulic oil level for my v-12 1550 hp 2009s..Anyone know? thanks!!
  2. mapism

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    Here's the relevant page from the manual of my ZF gearboxes.
    Also mated to MAN engines, but much less powerful (V8/800), so definitely not the same model of yours, though I would expect the oil check procedure to be the same for most if not all ZF g/boxes.
    If you're interested in something more specific, you must confirm the ZF model, because nobody can guess it from the engine type alone.

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    hello there, thanks much..i really miss the MAN service dealer from naples.
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    btw, are you using a 16 L atf or 16k fluid?thanks
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    Neither 16L nor 16K are oil types I'm familiar with. I guess the classification is different between our sides of the ocean?
    Anyway, attached is another page from my ZF manual, specifying SAE 30 (non-ATF) as generic oil type, plus some more detailed API and ACEA classes.
    The page also includes a list of oil names, but that might well be outdated, since the manual is by now 20+ years old. The specifications still stand, anyway.
    FWIW, the oil I always used is the Mobil Delvac 1330.

    But again, as I said your ZF gearbox is bound to be completely different (larger) than mine, so while oil recommendations are likely to be the same, I can't be positive about that. I do have some other ZF manuals in my files, but if you want me to check if I've got yours, you should confirm the exact model - just take a pic of the plate attached to the gearbox, if unsure.

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    Pending your operating temps, straight 30 or 40W oil in large ZF clutches.
    We use the same API CF2 oil as our Detroits with great results.

    Your MANs use 15Wx0 so do not use this in your clutches.

    BTW, in the states, Delvac 13xx oil is now 16xx.
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    Straight 40 weight is preferred, 15w40 is ok to use in cold climates according to the manual. The proper way to check them is to run the engines for 2+ minutes, bump them in gear a few times, shut engines off, wait a few minutes and check the level. I've found if the oil on the stick cold is 1-1.5" above full, then they're good.
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    According to which manual?
    If you check out the ZF manual page I posted, straight 30 is preferred, straight 40 is for hot climates, and multigrade oil is not even mentioned.
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    I changed the oil in my ZF 665’s after this past season. 30 wt is what they called for.
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    Same as mine, then.
    Out of curiosity, do they call for either yearly or 500 hours replacement also in your manual?
    Personally, I don't mind the 500 hours, but yearly replacement sounds pretty much like a CYA driven prescription, IMHO...
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    If memory serves it as a 1000 her change interval but I would need to verify. Don’t recall any mention of annual. I was doing my first change since they are fairly new.
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    The OP is asking about a ZF gear behind a 1550hp MAN, but most ZF gears will also use multigrade 15w-40 oil. A few ZF techs and reps have told me if you want to simplify what oil you carry it's perfectly fine to run 15w-40 in them. Because you didn't look on the next page!!!!!!!!!!!! Here's the list for all ZF marine gears. Obviously check which model you have and what's recommended before puting an oil type in there

    Bereich
    Here is the official link. I like to change gear oil every 2 years regardless of hours, due to moisure possibly getting in the oil.
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    Still waiting for a model number.
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    40w is recommended but it's compatible with 15w-40. I just loaded a 72' with 1300 v12 mans from that same era on a freighter that I've been dealing with for a long time. The 1300 has the same zf gear as the 1550's. I forget the model of the gear and would really have to go digging for it.
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    FWIW, here's the page of my manual mentioning either annual or 500 hours oil replacement interval.
    They do mention also a one-off replacement after the first 50 hours, so good call from your part on that!

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