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39-meter "My Saga" Sinks Off Italy

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  1. Yacht News

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    Another loss to report on...this time a loss via sinking. The 39-meter "My Saga" took on water off Italy and sank as a result. In recent times alot of yachts have been catching fire or sinking. This one adds to that growing list.

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    What a Sad Saga..:rolleyes::rolleyes:
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    Hmmm.
    Two retired shop owners were relaxing on a beach.
    "Sell your business?" asked one.
    "No. Had a fire. Took the insurance and retired. You?"
    "Kind of the same. We had a flood" replied the first.
    "That's interesting. How do you start a flood?"
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    Seems like quite a few boats went down or up (in smoke) this year. Or is it just better coverage.
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    In the video, the boat is under tow.
    I am assuming all are safe.
    Any word on how she flooded? Towed to where? She make it?
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    Well Shuzbut..
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    May be a bit of both. But I think its definitely a high number year especially for fires.
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    While everyone is entitled to his speculation, and or trolling on a forum.
    You should read a report by Panteneaus I think it was on the Boat International page, where they said, that 99% of owners always buy another yacht after the fire or sinking.
    So that alone tells you a lot more then the remark above, which is valid to less then 1% of owners, and even that can be in doubt.
    As some owners for example may never recover from a shock, and or are getting old and may be its time to call yachting a day.
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    Not much red neck humor in Malta I guess. :D:D
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    Yeah, I can’t imagine the wealthy owner of any of these boats taking such a risk, these suggestions are ridiculous.

    i can only recall one proven case when an owner paid his captain to scuttle a boat, a few years back I think it was a 80 footer in the Gulf Stream. In the end, loose lips sunk the ship a second time. :)

    now I know a few owners who have “sold” their boats to their insurance companies during hurricanes. That’s part of why insurance is going thru the roof
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    In the actual event the Saga began taking on water at the stern. The captain sent an SOS and being close to shore a tug and a coast guard vessel arrived promptly. The original plan was to rescue any passengers and leave some crew aboard to tow the vessel to port. This was in process of being set up when worsening conditions and an increasing list caused them to abandon the plan and rescue the crew. The vessel sank by the stern. My question to you more experienced guys is this: photos indicate one of those very large transom doors for a tender garage or a beach club. Starting with the megayacht Yogi several years ago several yachts seem to have sunk when these doors fail, water invades the engine room, motive power and pumps fail and the ship goes down. Is this a design failure or just one of those things that will happen from time to time given the increasingly large number of yachts built with these huge doors?
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    Well, I guess the mortgage rates go up in the boat industry as well since the rates are moving up.;)

    I expect this will be the norm for a while no wonder the insurance firms are getting out of this coverage. :D
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    There was an event in the PNW recently where a large boat with what looked like an open transom big door flooded in passage offshore. The boat was towed in by a cutter and then a tug.

    It is a first reaction to make a joke about insurance claims but I'm starting to think just a bunch of SFB operators are out there on the waters of the world.
    Beware, these folks are around and propagate..:rolleyes::rolleyes:
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    I just don’t understand how these doors can fail out of the blue. I would think that any large door can be manually dogged and deactivated to prevent accidental activation and opening. Heck, just turn off the breaker as part of the leaving the dock checklist.
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    Here in the St Johns from Jax to the ocean, I have noticed a few big-uns with there asp's open. I thought (SWAG) it was to help keep the heat down while putzing in the river.
    Once in the ocean, who looks aft? especially at your own aft..

    Pascal, the big-un you run, ever with the stern open? That stern area open to the ER? Or a strong ER bulkhead and dogged door?
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    The boat i isn’t big by todays standard at 116’. No fancy garage, just a transom door into the crew area and then another bulkhead with a water tight door to the ER. It uses a single latch, not dogs like the transom doors, but it’s nice and solid.

    we do have two jet ski pods with upward swinging hydraulic doors. The switches are insides the companionway to the ER so no risk of corrosion but maybe I should keep the breakers off. The garages are not fully watertight , there are some access plates on the floor and sides so in theory if they open in following seas could get in and flood the crew area

    not a great design.
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    I wonder, and pointing no fingers, how many of the boats on fire had Lithium batteries?

    I also notice most of the boats that were swamped or sunk were Italian built.

    Could all be just be a coincidence.
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    Well nobody has admitted to lighting candles in a stateroom,, again..:oops::oops:
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    Lithium batteries scare me and it s only going to get worst as they become increasingly popular not just in “toys” but as banks as well. We have an eFoil on the boat i run and the battery only gets charged in the ER, away from flammables between the engines. I feel it s pretty safe as it is a quality battery with a hood charger NOT made in China !

    Many boaters are switching to lithium, often not knowing their wonderful batteries are made in China…

    there has been a number of incidents where you can prove lithium batteries were the culprits but at what point is it no longer a coincidence? Remember that car carrier that went up in smoke with high end hybrid European cars in the middle of the ATL?

    the Saga obviously didn’t sink because of lithium batteries but the problem is that we never hear what really caused these incidents. Like the boat that took on water in the pacific NW because of the transom door and was salvaged. I really hope we find out quant happened. You d think the insurance companies would promote the distribution of these reports.