War on Diesel?

This thread is in the "YachtForums Yacht Club" forum, and, therefore, nothing is irrelevant. This forum was created to allow "Off-Topic Scuttlebutt." My only advice is to be gentle with the politicians that you want to blame, or the whiners on YF will have this thread shut down.

Hmmm...price of oil has remained the same since March 2022.
Yet fuel prices keep going up.
All the while the big oil companies are making and breaking record quarterly profits.

The oil companies control the ENTIRE fuel game. Not the Office of the President of the United States. Sorry to say, It's just not that powerful. Doesn't matter who's in office, it will always wax and wane.

The last guy inherited a booming economy , and low fuel prices during his term due to the COVID shut down and low demand for fuel. Had nothing to do with him or his administration.
They would still be high now even if he was in office.
Simple ''supply and demand'' theory.

Demand is way up now ,we along with fuel dependent equipment, are back to work . Supply is low, production is low, collective price gouging by the ''real '' powers to be is up. Hence the high fuel prices.

The prices will start to go down again, not sure when like the rest of you, but hopefully soon.

The posted Negativity make me Sea Sick.

I agree with you that fuel prices would be higher now irregardless of who was in office but I think it is undeniable (due to our Presidents publicly spoken comments) that fuel prices are significantly higher due to his attitude towards the petroleum industry and his actions taken regarding pipelines and drilling. As I understand it a significant part of the high prices of petroleum is due to limited refining capacity. Some are closing refineries in one instance due to a billion dollars to update and maintain the facility. Who in there right mind will want to spend huge money to update a refinery and/or build a new one when the administration states that their goal is to get rid of our reliance of fossil fuels. Even a monkey knows not to release one branch till the other branch is in reach. I took that line from someone else but thought it was illustrative. Why are we making an abrupt transition from fossil fuels to electrification when we don’t have the grid or the electric production capability in place. Irregardless of party that is just a dumb move to put it mildly. Do any of these anti fossil fuel people realize how dirty and Environmentally damaging making all these batteries and solar panels are? Another problem is a large part of our society wants all the convenience of modern living but has no idea of what that entails. It entails ugly industries such as chemical, petroleum, large trucks, sewer systems, air conditioning etc. It also requires ugly people to do these jobs. The dirty Walmart people. Let the blue collar take a month off and some would quickly change their tune. These industries require facilities that need to be located somewhere but yet no one wants them near them. You would be surprised at the reaction large trucks will get from some people. But I bet if you asked them would they want their home built with no large trucks and saw the price difference they would say bring on the large trucks. My point is that there is a large part of America that is seeing in real time the costs of reckless environmentalism. I hate to see it but maybe parts of the nation needs to feel some pain so they can realize the folly of their ideology when taken to extremes.

Yep. The boating industry - commercial and recreational - is seeing a sequence of events unfold that while perhaps short of an existential crisis, clearly has the potential to remake - and shrink - the industry in a way that hasn't been seen since the 1970's energy crisis. The changes could be profound and I am a bit surprised it isn't getting more (public) discussion in boating circles, not just on this forum but in all the marine forums and trade publications. And this is all happening in the absence of a recession..or at least one that has begun in earnest. The near-term economic landscape looks bleak for people who work and recreate on the water. But, it's the longer-term energy landscape that may be where the real threat lies. It's tough to see modest industry growth, much less robust industry growth, when people have shrinking discretionary income while at the same time, there is growing regulatory hostility to the fuel supply the industry is so dependent on.

I think the results of this “sequence of events” is the final nail in the coffin for mid market boating. The 50’ Carvers and Sea Rays and the like had already dropped out. That market will go from shrinking to extinction I think.
The small outboard market will continue to be the segment with any chance of sustainment or growth.
The big boat market is I think an unknown. There will always be wealthy people. But economic and societal changes can affect their perspectives even if it doesn’t affect their bank account. When it comes to “yacht” ownership they may simply find the juice isn’t worth the squeeze.

They fully expect to control the elections

Well said, we have just decided to put buying another boat on hold. I'm sure we are not the only ones doing so.
"The juice isn't worth the squeeze!"

The radio says just today that Jerome Powell apparently agrees with rtrafford. He said that he does not think that the war in Ukraine is significant contributor to the present inflation. (Paraphrasing)

June 2022 Biden’s war on oil…

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidb...ice-as-bidens-war-on-oil-and-gas-expands/amp/

To quote the chief of staff of a previous democrat president : never let a crisis go to waste.

the current administration has confessed that they intend on using the higher fuel prices to push solar and wind as well as electric vehicle. It’s apart of the plan. Meanwhile the chicoms, Russia, India etc continue to pollute at will and getting a boost from cheaper conventional energy

History will show these were just a few "stormy" years.