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Discussion in 'Marinas & Waypoints' started by Rodger, Apr 20, 2015.

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  1. MBevins

    MBevins Senior Member

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    Where was this taken?
    I'm currently on the St.Lawrence at Alexandria Bay , I'll keep an eye out for when she goes by.
    I would have used Marine traffic but I can't read her name.
  2. Rodger

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    There are 17 Yachts all together 12 on deck 5 in the hold
  3. Rodger

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    Should start up Seaway in Montreal Monday or Tuesday
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    Took it about a mile west of Quebec city
  5. Rodger

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    On Saturday the CCGS Pierre Radisson 322' was down bound St Lawrence River breaking ice and behind her was the
    Federal Crimson 621' ran into the stopped ice breaker which appears to be stuck in ice.
    In the winter time all vessels are required to have two River Pilots on board for their trip.
    There is a video will try and down load. Ice.png ice1.png
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  6. Kevin

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    It's the Utopia IV all over again.
  7. Capt Ralph

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    Nobody got wet and nothing sunk.

    Just the nature of ice breakers, ramming ice, stopping, backing up and ramming the ice again would keep me far away from his stern.
    I wonder, if the breaker just needed a little more push? Ha

    Of course, glad nobody was hurt
    but I can imagine some dirty shorts or sprained sphincters ¡¡
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    Makes one wonder what regs pilots need to adhere to when following an icebreaker in such circumstances. How do the COLREGS under the Canada Shipping Act apply in this case, I wonder?
  9. Capt Ralph

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    Same rules apply following anything. They Messed up. Ice breakers are usually showing RAM.
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    "It's the Utopia IV all over again."

    I am still waiting for the first post, somebody saying, the icebreaker should take some of, if not most of the blame for not checking his six :cool:.

    Following an icebreaker on active duty in tight quarter is always a delicate business, especially when the icebreaker needs several attempts breaking the ice.

    We have had several unwanted contacts between our inland waterway cargo vessels and the icebreakers on the canals and rivers in Germany during wintertime in our company history. The new policy of the authorities here is, just closing the waterways for all traffic, if the ice thickness requires more than just going through of the icebreaker.

    Because all of our inland waterway cargo vessels carry the private car of the skipper couple on top of the superstructure, they just tie the ship to the canal bank, lift the car onto the usual tridal way and drive home.
    Much better than ruining the ship or the icebreaker! Being stuck in ice during winter is part of their business.

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    But winter on the St. Lawrence Seaway is a different story. I still remember my time as the Captain on my fathers bulker, picking up coal at Sept Iles during winter. The crew had to cut the ice off the hatches with axes and steam nozzles in order to get them open. And after the loading time, icebreakers and tugs had to free us from the ice in order to go back to sea.

    Those icebreaker crews are real professionals and are doing a great job. They have my full respect.

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    And it feels like it's always winter there :).
  11. Rodger

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    Due to the nature of her work, I am sure the ice breaker was operating using rule 18, Restricted in her Ability to Maneuver (RAM). RAM vessels are on the top of the stay the heck away list for many reasons.
    This event is an example of why other vessels must stay the heck away.
    Way different than the Utopia cluster fudge.
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    By looking at the video, I would say "breaking action poor" :). Navigating in arctic waters is really something special. It needs skill, experience and besides a strong ship, a good crew.

    Thanks Rodger, that is the pier, I mangeged to damage with my ship, many, many years ago. That was the time, I hated my job as a Captain on one of my fathers ships. Bloody cold weather and being seperated for weeks from my family with my beloved wife and my 4 young children.

    Blue water commercial seafarers have to be a special species.
  14. Capt Ralph

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    There's a video??
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    Yep, the link in Rodger's post #191.

    I just watched the video and I'm thinking "hey that bridge looks familiar"... the incident took place just east of the Pont de Quebec (the truss bridge closer to the camera) with the two vessels heading westbound.
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    Feadship 200' "Majestic"
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    Not your typical center console in tow...

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    Those sliding glass doors right on the transom look like a perfect way to sink a yacht in a heavy sea.
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  19. Rodger

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    She making good time took her down the Welland Canal on Friday we went down the canal lines free
  20. Capt Ralph

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    Yes, I noticed that and wanted to say something late last night.
    I think your comments read nicer.
    I'm not the person who owns her, nor the company agent who insures her.
    But,, Still a C F design.