Utopia IV sinks... a fuel tanker???

A bunch of stupid little things came together at the same time. Lax on both ships.
Yep, Both ships will take a blame.
Still, The Yacht should take the blunt of the blame for no qualified observer on watch.
That skipper should be out of a job by now.

I'm guessing he's already enrolled in CDL training.

If one federal license is under investigation, You are not going to get another one.

That Youtuber eSysman reported over the weekend (based on sources who were on the vessels at the time of the collision) that it wasn't the lack of a lookout that was the primary cause of the crash but rather, the lack of a captain. The captain allegedly stepped out of the wheelhouse to 'attend to guests' leaving the unqualified deckhand at the helm....at night...traveling at 20-knts....in a seaway. Also, there was no FLIR camera pointed in the direction of the bow. The environmental damage notwithstanding, they're lucky as can be that no one was seriously injured, or worse.

Been following this thread and in all of the internet world there is very little info about this other than here. I have been running yachts for many decades (8 renewals 1600 ton.) Keeping watch is 2 little words that mean a lot.

Where was the radar watch and AIS watch and who was paying attention to it.

Running at night all you would see is a tiny white light ahead on the tanker (if it was working). If the radars were not tuned up properly then I can see how this would happen. Pays to sometimes step outside of the wheel house and actually take a look ahead.

I always cut speed at night to displacement on overnighters.


Tending to the guests is total bullshit (can I say that here) when underway. My focus is always on the operation of the ship. On overnight deliveries I always hire another captain so I can (sort of) get some sleep. I always take the dog watch.

Question: is there no proximity alarm with radar? Such a tanker should have a nice profile on the radar, even if light is on on the bridge with no/little visibility on the bridge.

Yes there are proximity alarms with AIS and echos.

I think it should be clear to all that there was the facts will show that "no one at watch" in this situation.

No proper person on watch or watching on either boat.
Don't get me wrong, the yacht captain should be hung for sure, but the investigation will blame some on the tanker. A little effort on their part could of avoided the collision also.

Let's just remember that we don't know all of the facts yet and won't until a report is finally released, so no time soon. I could easily see this one being even worse for the yacht than the rumors and what we're hearing, but I could also see various factors leading to some blame for the tanker. It would be very unusual to see a collision of two boats where some blame isn't given to both. It comes back to responsibility to avoid a collision. From what has been said to this point it does look about as heavy to the yacht as possible. Guess one day we'll know.

It was noted that their lights had a problem.
I'm sure, you like my self, and all other better operators eyeball scan all around your ship from time to time while cruising. Even at 20kts, maybe lol lower if you take into account the speed of the tanker, if they noticed the yacht coming, actions may have been performed and the collision MAY have been avoided.
Yes, I am armchair play calling, but what if???
Take into history the fishing boat that was run over in the FL panhandle. They got some blame.

While I disagree for the most part, I can't help but wonder what the watch aboard the commercial vessel was doing with a fast approaching target on the radar 6 as well as running lights. IF the AIS was truly out, I'd think the watch focus should have been dialed up a bit knowing you had lost one of your senses.

I don't see any legal blame landing on this vessel, but I certainly want to know what the heck was going on aboard if in any way involved in this mess.

I feel a coffee (or other refreshment) bet coming on....
I bet the tanker gets some blame..

If it's my fleet? Yes. Why isn't the AIS working, and who was responsible for not repairing or replacing a $500 fix? Why wasn't the watch noticing a radar target approaching from the rear, closing at a rate of perhaps 10 knots? Why weren't the running lights of the approaching vessel not seen? Why wasn't there an outreach via VHF?

Yes, I'd have questions and internal consequences, but ultimately the private vessel owns the event.