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Just heard about that this morning. Quite frankly I can't say when I've ever seen a cruise ship anchored. That's a man (or 1,000) without a country. Tragic! NOBODY should be getting on a cruise ship during this. Flying the same thing unless absolutely necessary. We all heard how our legislators felt having to come back to D.C. the other day, and I figure they know more about what's going on than I do. I'll be anxious to hear when this gets figured out. Even then I think they'll be days away from port. Tragic.

I don’t understand how people continued to get on board those floating Petri dishes well after the well publicized disaster with that cattle ship in japan. Amazing.

so glad cruise lines aren’t eligible for relief money.

couple of days ago there were 10 ships in the port of Miami and 4 anchored outside

just looked At AIS there are 6 anchored outside Miami and 10 anchored at Great Isaac. 3 off Freeport, 3 of FLL and a few just slowing moving off shore not going anywhere

The one with 4 dead on it has been trying to pull into Port Everglades for several days now. Many people are fighting it. Most think they should pull into their flag state country!

They have to be allowed to get help for their passengers. I'm done with these Me, Me, Me people. We all have to do everything we can to help everyone we're able to. We need to all work together. We are a global community in this if nothing else. And yes Pascal, anyone who gets on one today needs their head examined, but you can't mandate smarts unfortunately. Maybe worse still, and not mentioned, is that those ships at anchor mentioned may not have passengers, but they still have crew aboard.

I watch Marinetraffic every day to track friends movements and also to see what is out and about in and off of San Diego. There are 9 cruise ships either tied to docks, at anchor, or drifting in the San Diego to Los Angeles area. Disney Wonder has been tied up for a couple of weeks, here, and the Maasdam arrived two days ago.
Ironically for the passengers on the Maasdam when it arrived two days ago, after a month at sea due to landing restrictions, they disembarked from a COVID-19 free ship.
The count:
3 in San Diego harbor
2 anchored outside of Ensenada "waiting for orders"
1 steaming and drifting offshore
2 anchored at L.A. harbor
1 Berthed in L.A.
Most are Carnival ships.

I agree. Ships with passengers should be allowed to disembark them and into quarantine. As to crew, well they on board for weeks at a time and getting paid anyway....

Oh and there are another 10 ships anchored of Great Harbor Cay in the berrys.

Here are two groups of cruise ship anchored above Nassau there are ten ships in each group

I have listened to a lot of experts, but so far this professor from South Korea has the best summary of the virus situation I have heard, a well spent half an hour...

Good video, thank you for sharing.

Yep. Great Harbor cay and Great Isaac Rock

With the growth of the cruise industry about 500,000 people are at sea at any given time. There was no mainland protocol in place for what to do when a worldwide pandemic is declared and an assortment of presidents. premiers, governors, health authorities, mayors, port authorities and others made up (and changed) policy on the go. The resulting chaos is therefore expected and I think the big cruise lines have done pretty well under the circumstances. At the end of the day being on a ship is no worse than being with 300 others in a hermetically sealed cigar tube 37,000 feet up breathing recirculated air. And somehow, we have to get everybody home. Nobody needs a new Exodus.
So when this is over, and it will be over, and before the next pandemic and there will be one, there needs to be an international agreement that set procedures and protocols for docking ships and offloading passengers and crew. The current mess can be excused because the world wasn't expecting this and had no plan. If it happens again it will be inexcusable.

30 minutes of sub-titles is well worth reading. Thank you for the info Lars.

Agree with you on this one: If they flag out to avoid taxes, they should get no US aid. (Ask Bahamas, Liberia or Panama for a few $ Hundred Million to keep the fleet afloat while the Corona crises)

No. Many of these cruises were after knowledge. The cruises were very simply the cruise lines choosing money over morality.

Agreed, help the ship get to their country with enough supplies. That is very generous considering they choose money over safety. I flew some of the legislatures to DCA and shared their concern and voiced my own concern for being a sacrificial essential service. I flew four flights over two days with a total combined passenger load of 100 out of 680 available seats. A number of the passengers were airline employees deadheading. Cargo and supplies makes sense, people wanting to go north to prep their summer homes or cheap seats to Cabo, ridiculous! These were the reason some gave me for flying.

the Diamond Princess fiasco happened in early February. It docked it japan around feb 4th I believe.

A month later people were still boarding cruise ships. Nobody forced them. It has nothing to do with greed or Morality. It has to do with stupidity and the way so many people want bargains. Cruise ships offer bargain vacations... just like most people don’t care if their dog food, drug ingredients come for communist China. It s cheap... alleluia! It s all that counts.

Corporations respond to demand. People want cheap vacations... that’s what they offer