No Brunswick was against using anything other than a Brunswick product when they owned them. Hatteras prefers to use Cats almost exclusively, but uses MTU when it has to (above 1900 HP). I don't know their situation with using MANs, but I would think if it made a lot of sense to use them in a hull, they would strongly consider it. The MAN's would probably make a lot of sense regarding weight, fuel burn, and quietness. I ran a new set of the 1400 HP mans in a 70' Princess and it ran great, 28 knot cruise, quiet, smooth, powerful.
OK, I'm confused, Are these new Cabo's being manufactured in N.C. or are they back in CA with the Mag Bay guys? The reason I asked how they'll be received is the loyal hard core Cabo enthusiasts that weren't impressed with the product after the brand sold. I have no first hand experience with boats this size.
These Cabo's are being manufactured in the Hatteras plant in New Bern NC. The Mag Bay guys are building Mag Bay's in California.
One of the founder's of Cabo Yachts has started the Mag Bay Boat company with his son in the same California town where Cabo was originally located. After Cabo was sold to Brunswick, they where eventually moved to Hatteras as part of the sportfishing side of the Brunswick Boat Group. Brunswick sold Hatteras, including the Cabo brand, and is out of the picture focusing on Outboard Products and Outboard Boats.
Brunswick sold both Cabo Yachts and Hatteras Yachts (both being produced in the Hatteras New Bern, NC plant since 2012 ish) several years back to Versa Capital group, I want to say around 2013-2014. Searay, only in their 58' Sedan bridges (and possibly another model or two, I don't know), till that style ceased production around 2009. Probably because there wasn't a cummins that fit when the boat was designed. The 58' SB/800 MANs were a great fit and cruised at 28 knots at around 60 gph. If there isn't a Brunswick choice, then the builder is free to go with someone that makes an engine in a HP configuration they need. I know the 52' Sedan Bridges from that era had cummins. The late 59' was stuck going with triple zues 600 hp because it's a Brunswick product, when twin 900 HP IPS would've been a better fit and faster.
My dad and his partner Henry founded Cabo in 1990 and sold it to Brunswick in February 2006. We are completely separate from the Cabo of today. Many if not most of the molds of the "new" Cabo 41 are molds that we built in 2003 for the original Cabo 40. I for one am really happy to see that boat resurrected and from the few pictures I have seen it looks like the new Cabo ownership has done a nice job with some styling updates especially the windshield. I don't want to speak of our 42 in this thread as it doesn't pertain to Cabo but I look forward to giving the Cabo 41 some real competition come FLIBS later this year.
Sea Ray used a ton of 800/900/1050/1100 hp MAN's under Brunswick ownership, they even had their own factory MAN tech/rep onsite. 52/55/58/60 Sundancer's and 52/56/58 Sedan Bridges out of the Sykes Creek and the Palm Coast Plants
It is quite possible, I just haven't seen that on my end. I simply know all of the 58' Sedan Bridges had them (I ran 3, delivered 2 long distance). Every 52' sundancer and SB I ran had cummins in them, not to say that MANs weren't in a lot of them IDK. I ran one 60' Sundancer and it had cats. I don't know if I ran any 55' or 56's...….but a lot of US builders in that time frame were using a lot of Man's.....Viking and Cabo also come to mind, but they were mid to early 2000s, that those 2 were using lots of MANs.
Very nice and professional post. I think the market benefits greatly once you and they get production ramped up and there are such boats being produced on both coasts. Seems to me the spirit of Cabo is being revived quite nicely.
Being located in Southern California, I’m very much looking forward to your builds and having a builder located here.
check out the attached pics! I was just at the Hatteras factory today and the new CABO 41, CABO UNO, which will be the demo boat just finished her first sea trial and ran great...she looks beautiful! the windshield is really awesome
Fit and finish is hatteras grade too...wiring and plumbing throughout the boat, etc...same guys building hatteras building Cabo
Think that was a big problem when they first brought Cabo to N C. The Hatt techs spent to many hours building the Cabos and may have never got the assembly down to a smart (cost reduced) assembly.
Yes for sure, but that was a different time/market in 2012 when the merger happened. The express market back then was slow, but now with the economy picking up and Hatteras getting more honed and refined its definitely different this time. When you see the pricing it’s pretty comparable to the similar size larger center consoles
I’ve always liked the express boats so glad to see them making more of a comeback. We should see Bertram’s entry sometime this year as well.
When Brunswick decided to move the factory, they sent engineers from Bayliner to document how we built the boats and that information was then sent to New Bern. The hours skyrocketed once the boats started being built in NC. But of course that was nearly a decade ago. Considering how fast they put this 41 together i'd say they have either refined their production process or put an army of guys on the boat to assemble it. The 40/41 was a pretty straightforward boat to build back in the day.
Problem is Bayliner people would have understood better how to efficiently build it than Hatteras people. I haven't been to the Hatteras plant since 2015, but last time I was there, it still wasn't the picture of efficiency. I would say not bad when it comes to direct labor when on task, but indirect labor and delay between tasks and wait time may be better than they were but still not what you'd seek.