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Educating and influencing the yacht owner?

Discussion in 'General Yachting Discussion' started by Chris W, Jun 20, 2011.

  1. Chris W

    Chris W Member

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    i am looking for historical data on past years hurricane activity simply to show the boss,or more importantly his boss,the wife, what we can expect and to show him the futility of trying to pick a date to depart. i will be listening to southbound II for weeks as well as watching the hurricanes coming my way for along time before departing. as would any prudent mariner.
    the fact that my friend the cute blond is a cute blond didnt get her onboard with me. its because she has been sailing with her father since she could walk.
    when my boss is aboard, he runs the boat, sails it very well also,i trust him to not bring anyone not ready for a trip like this.i would just have an easier time with my crew onboard and me running everything then with him tweaking the sails every 20 minutes.
    i AM a captain, mca and uscg liscensed,25 years on boats with never an bad problem i couldnt fix or any insurance claims. proud of that.
    sorry i cant spell for crap.maybe i shouldnt have gone offshore after high school.:p
    thanks for the advice. best bit i have heard is, "his boat his dime". thats the bottom line. if he wants to take a long trip on his boat its my job to make it as pleasant and safe as possible. and i love my job.been running this boat full time for 18monthes,half way thru my contract.
    have a nice day all.
  2. Pascal

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    The NHC website has a lot of historical data and charts but it s not going to tell you much as it all depends on how this season shapes up. Some years are pretty quiet, other more active but its not just about how active the season will be, it s about where the activity will take place. Some years storms will keep on rolling west into the golf, central am or southeast US while few recurve out to sea. Other years everything recurves out making it impossible to find a decent window across

    One thing is sure: September is the worst month whenit comes to tropical systems and those swells can travel a very long way!
  3. Ken Bracewell

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    I couldn't agree more. I know that I sometimes get tunnel vision and have to step back and re-evaluate. When my boss bought this boat three years ago I thought he was mad when he expressed interest in bringing guests on passages and deliveries. We talked it through and worked it out- he has now done several thousand miles of blue water cruising with us. When we are on passage, the boss and his guests know that weather dictates both the schedule AND the level of service we are able to provide. In addition, the interior crew stays on their normal schedule for when we have guests aboard. In order to maintain a safe watch schedule, we recruit the boss and his guests as secondary watch-standers during overnight hours. They love it and have a great time helping to "navigate" that boat!
  4. Capt Bill11

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    I don't disagree and have done the same. But owners and especially guest that are competent to cross the Atlantic by sail are few and far between I would think. And when the crap starts hitting the blades on a trip like that the competency of every person on board could be the difference between whether the voyage ends in tears of joy or sorrow.

    So I would be very leery of any guest as crew on that kind of voyage. And I’d like to know their true qualifications well in advance of the trip.
  5. K1W1

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    Hi,

    Regardless of the pieces of paper with someones name on, experience counts for sailing blue water and the more the better if short handed or in heavy weather sailing conditions when all may be needed to drop a damaged and flapping sail or work up the mast.
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    That is the kind of "qualification" I was speaking about. :)
  7. tristanrowe

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    This is your big chance to be Charlie Barr and your Owner can be Mr Wilson Marshall.....An epic crossing tale and one that would be fun to reenact, including the locking the Owner below bit!
  8. Chris W

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    just because we all love a happy ending..

    thank you all for your contributions, we had a really fast,easy,unevntful crossing.the best kind. 3weeks and 12 hours dock to dock,RI to southern holland.3400miles,160m a day average,240m best day,110 hours on the main eng,burned 800ltrs fuel total, caught 4 mahis and 2 albacore.
    nearest hurricane,opehelia(sp?) passed 300m north of us and gave us 40-50kts of wind for a day and a half but it was a fairwind, that was just dumb luck it passed north of us with 150mph winds. that is what i was worried about,turns out for nothing.
    now its freezing cold and dark in holland and i promise to never whine about the heat in ft lauderdale again.going into a heated shed next month for a little putty and paint.
    i was real glad to see my boss so happy to sail into his hometown after the boat being away from here for 5 years. i know i would have been proud if it was me. we all had a real nice trip and next time, i will try to worry abit less.
    but hopefully he has got this outta his system now and will just point me and send me.
    good day all.
  9. PropBet

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    Nicely done Chris.
    Glad you had a good sail, safe, and timely.
    How did the boss do on the trip?
  10. chuckb

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    Pretty basic... but free and easy to access! :D If the direct link is a violation of forum rules... delete the post..

    See Tropical Weather : Weather Underground and look at the lower right... you can select any year/month and it will show the historical tracks... probably a bit late for the OP's needs, but still a good reference for future use....
  11. Innomare

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    Chris, welcome to Holland. You sure chose the worst period to be here weatherwise. At least you'll get to see "Sinterklaas" (a Christian saint which brings presents to the kids, about three weeks before Santa Claus does).

    Good luck with your refit!

    Bruno
  12. Chris W

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    cakewalk of a transatlantic

    the boss and his 2 buisnessman type friends all did very well. no seasickness,or any real issues at all. we were VERY lucky with the wx though. it could have taken a left turn really easily if that hurricane tracked further south than it did.my job is to conduct the yacht iin a safe seamanlike manner and maximize the bosses enjoyment of his asset. i did my bit and the weather gods were kind. i was truely worried before leaving and was even thinking of not going, ie,losing my job, just because of what may have come. real glad i didnt let,fear,or over cautiousness,or whatever let me make that mistake. alls well that ends well. and the codfish here is to die for!
    i am going to enjoy a winter in holland .
  13. PropBet

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    Remind us again what kind of boat you sailed across?
  14. Chris W

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    she is a modern classic aluminium hull cutter. dont like to talk about the boss but the boat is a little zaca 73. i have run lots of boats, sail and power, and this one is hands down the nicest sailing vessel i have had the pleasure of running. especially in 12kts of wind, which is far more normal then gales and such. i get alot of nice comments on the faux finished carbon fiber mast.it looks like very well kept varnish,especially from a short distance.
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    Certainly wasn't looking for granular details, names or private matters. Just an idea of what kind / size boat you crossed the pond with. 32' J Boat or an 85' Oyster. Or something in the middle!
  16. Innomare

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    That's a very nice boat, Chris! I don't often envy the job of a yacht captain, but now I'm not so sure...

    PS - the boat in my avatar comes from the same builder.

    Bruno
  17. Chris W

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    i certainly meant no offense either. and the type of boat has nothing to do with the owner, pardon me.
    we just had a very nice trip after all the worry i put myself thru is the point.
    have a nice day from sunny holland.
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    Glad you made it safe and the trip was uneventful, and you and your boss enjoyed the crossing.
    Hope you didn't take offense to the "dad and cute blond" comment. The way you said it had no indication of experience level, just that they were your dad and a girl who was cute. Of course they could have had decades of experience or none- but if someone had decades of experience the choice of descriptive words are not usually "cute blond". Bracewell's "cute blond" may also have decades of experience but if the reference to her is "cute blond" then the listener will more than likely come to the conclusion that she is on the boat because she looks good, not that she is a competent mariner.
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    Hey, as a cute blond I resent that. Oh heck I guess it's ok if a lady wants me there just for that. I'll suffer through. Darned sexism.:D
  20. Old Phart

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    I dunno
    Too funny!

    That explains a lot of your posts. :D