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Solar power on a 46.6 convertable

Discussion in 'General Yachting Discussion' started by LenR, Feb 18, 2026.

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  1. Capt Ralph

    Capt Ralph Senior Member

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    Your Bertram does not want ANY more weight or drag forward.
    Plan any additional batteries mid or just after mid-ship as low as possible.
    My batteries (post #16) are in the bilge, center, just ahead of the main engines.
    Those tall batteries are sealed and if the bilges flood, The connects are still up high and dry.
    But, my Bertram 58 hull did loose some ride quality.
    Hard to believe a few extra batteries can make a change.

    Rite now experimenting with injector timing to gain some more top torque and HP.
    When I win the lotto, new props with a bit less pitch will be probably be a better correction.

    Oh, real drivers don't need any stinking thrusters. :cool:
  2. LenR

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    I agree. But not a bad crutch...

    This is my 1st boat with. Last year when I got her I had to replace all batteries along with everything else seen and unseen associated with a boat that has been on the hard for years, The Summer of Surprises. Batteries for the cheater didn't make the cut.
    The thruster needs a "starting" battery and an inverter needs "deep cycle" How bad do you think it would hurt deep cycles with occasional short heavy draws? A heavy draw across a larger bank, 4 x 24V, probably wouldn't be too bad.
    She has 3196's so ER room is valuable. This is going to need to be a well laid out plan. Thanks for your insight.

    Can a little cup be hammered out of the wheels?
  3. Capt Ralph

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    It's a false crutch.
    Including yours, SFs are operated all over the world with out thrusters.
    Save your money for those ole Cats and fuel.

    Bertram used to split the house DCv loads between the starting banks. Hopefully this has already been fixed on your ship.
    If you must, use one of the starting banks for the thruster. Not a bank with any electronics on it.
    4/0 cables all the way (The price of these cables should scare you aweigh).
    Also, Proportional thruster control. Slow starting then max current draw avoiding a big bang on the batteries.

    1) You got to have props with cup, to tap them aweigh.
    2) Cup may be required on some boats. Think of a lock-up torque converter or a two speed clutch; A lil slip when trying to get going (less wet traction), then less slip (more traction from the cup) when running at speed.
    My 12V71s don't have much cup.
    Your 3196s probably need cup to get up and go correctly.
  4. ranger58sb

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    We sorta did that backwards from your question. The boat came with a thruster on it's own dedicated battery bank.. and I wanted an inverter somehow... and the thruster bank seemed to me to be an under-utilized resource. We replaced the original thruster charger with a Victron inverter/charger, Voila!

    The battery bank at the time was crap, due for replacement anyway, so we replaced with a pair of Lifeline 8D AGMs in series to 24VDC. Works pretty well... and Lifeline specs are appropriate for this kind of dual-purpose role, more emphasis on capacity than cranking amps. Odyssey AGMs would also work, the other way, more emphasis on cranking amps over capacity. Neither inexpensive.

    I would have considered an LFP battery solution for that bank, but... at the time there weren't any viable products (that I could find, at least) that would be appropriate for the thruster's CCA requirement and at the same time useful for inverter Ah capacity. That seems to be beginning to change, these days, but I haven't kept current on that... 'cause my issue is solved for a while and I've got better things to shop on in the meantime. That said, there's a newer "Solid State" LFP on the market now -- eye watering prices -- that might be viable in a role like this. Maybe others less expensive...

    Ref the thruster: specs say ours weighs 107-lbs, not what I'd call heavy. Came with the boat. The battery bank is located aft, not ideal, but not a problem. We only occasionally use the thruster, mostly for moving crew on the foredeck closer to one bow pile or the other to get a line on.

    -Chris
  5. Capt Ralph

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    Now I'm confused;
    LenR: you already have a thruster and need batteries for it or want to install a whole thruster system?
  6. LenR

    LenR New Member

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    The thruster was installed when I got the boat.
    The previous owner, a well known family in the marine industry locally, had the boat for a long while and renovated her. DD's out and Cat's in w 440 hrs now, generator, a/c x 3, Rybovich style helm, extensive Garmin, Glendinning, rewired all 115v and converted & rewired 32v to 24-12', new galley, ect, nothing untouched.

    My position now is to complete some projects and make her how I will be using her for a long while.

    As for the Cats, 45 gph together @80% 1830 rpm running 23 knot. I know the 31xx legasy is not great but maintenance is crucial.
  7. Capt Ralph

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    Ah, Here I was downplaying a new bow thruster install and you already have one.
    I miss read something/somewhere.:confused:
    Scratch half of what I typed above about thrusters above.
  8. LenR

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    That is my feeling on the thruster batteries. Thanks for the battery info. It seams like building the inverter and battery storage will be 1st then consider adding solar charging
  9. LenR

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    Not a problem. I've been boating for a lifetime w/o the cheater. Just trying to not make the mistakes others are willing to share about.
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    It's not paying for itself and there is no free lunch. It takes HP to turn an alternator when it is putting out amperage. So you are burning the same amount of fuel to make that electricity, just burning more with the engine instead of the generator. Yes it keeps hours off of the generator I suppose, but you also have a bigger battery bank that needs to be replaced every so many years.
  11. Capt Ralph

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    To many negative waves.
    You sometimes remind me of my second wife.
    Never anything good to say;
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  12. LenR

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    :D:D:D:eek: