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Discussion in 'General Yachting Discussion' started by DOCKMASTER, Mar 2, 2025.

  1. DOCKMASTER

    DOCKMASTER Senior Member

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    After much deliberation I have come to the painful decision that it’s time to sell my boat. Life evolves and we must evolve with it. This will not be a fire sale and not driven by financial hardship or health issues fortunately. My challenge is I’m not sure what my boat is worth? I’ve put part far more into it than I will ever get back which is understood. What range would put my value at?

    1994 Donzi Z-54 Sportfish. 3 staterooms, two heads (both with large showers). large salon with galley up. I’ve owned her since with 2012 with continual upgrades and replacements including a complete repower/refit completed in 2020. Cruises at 30 knots with 36 knots at WOT. 2020 refit:

    - CAT C-18’s ACERTs 1150 hp. currently have only 300 hrs and covered under CAT Platinum warranty
    - ZF 665 gears with electronic trolling valves.
    - ZF Electronic engine controls
    - Northern Lights 20kw and 9 kw gens. 250 hrs on 9 kw and 120 hrs on 20 kw
    - All new shafts, props, bearings, seals and Veem interceptor 5 blade props
    - New Blue Water 750 gal/day Watermaker
    - all new hoses, fittings, wiring etc throughout engine room
    - complete engine room repaint
    - New carpet throughout interior
    - All new 24v steering HPU with new helm, ram and plumbing

    Other notables:
    - Complete exterior prep and paint with Awlcraft in 2022
    - All new Raritan macerating heads with freshwater or saltwater option at click of a switch
    - 2016 Novurania RIB with 60 hp 4 stroke Yamaha . 1k davit for easy launch and recovery
    - 800#/day fish box ice maker with freshwater or saltwater selectable option
    - Custom frames and 3/8 laminated glass front and wrap around glass on bridge
    - Updated full Simrad electronics suite including 3 x 12” displays on bridge and 1 x 16” in cockpit.
    - All new flexiteek decking in cockpit, swim step and gunnel sides in 2022.
    - 55k btu diesel fired hydronic heating with 5 zones
    - Chilled water cooling with reverse cycle heat. New compressors in 2014 with minimal use
    - Side power 13.4 hp bow thruster with speed controller
    - custom built tackle center, fish boxes, cockpit freezer and more.

    There is tons more. Boat is immaculate and needs absolutely nothing. Owned by commercial shipyard executive with extensive knowledge and experience. Full time maintenance and upgrade craftsman has worked on her since 2012.

    Boat is currently located in Ketchikan Alaska. I’m contemplating moving her to either Puget Sound or possibly San Diego if it makes sense for better sales opportunities.

    What do you think it’s worth? You won’t offend me, I promise. I was thinking maybe in the $700k range but maybe that’s optimistic in today’s market? I’ll post photos a little later when I can resize them on my laptop.
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  2. gr8trn

    gr8trn Senior Member

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    I have never been of the opinion that the best two days of a boaters life are when the boat is purchased and when the boat is sold. That seems to be true for those that are not truely into boating/cruising/racing/fishing etc...

    I wonder if you will engage the YachtForums option for listing or are you going with a pro like Judy or 939RSR?

    Seems like you are in the 550 to 650 league with the current market. Depsite the new stuff. I find that hard to imagine with the new running gear, motors, not to mention super paint job.
  3. DOCKMASTER

    DOCKMASTER Senior Member

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    Certainly won’t be a happy day for me when it goes. But life goes on. I’m a huge fan of YF and would love to give the forum a listing. But I only see like four boats listed there and they’ve been on forever. Am I missing something?

    You might be accurate with price range. Curious to see what others might suggest.
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    gr8trn Senior Member

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    It seems like the listing here has great photos and great listings.
    I think I would at least chat with @YachtForums to get the skinny on the program.
    I miss every boat that goes away, but I don’t think I will ever be boatless so it’s not so bad.
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  5. Capt J

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    It's really a tough call as to what it's worth, but location is going to hurt price a good bit. Talk to a few SF brokers, but might make sense to get her to South Florida versus San Diego.
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  6. JWY

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    Hey, DM. Sorry to hear you're selling. Just promise us when she sells that you won't be leaving YF.

    Your boat is worth far more than you will ever get, but her outstanding condition and upgrades will make her an easier and faster sale. I don't have a problem with your price although Gr8trn might be closer to reality. But remember that if you're not getting action at your price, you can always lower it, but not so easy to justify an increase based on "whoops, lots of activity so maybe I asked too little." Also, Donzi of course is a fine pedigree and will attract aficionados, but for many buyers, the name is impressive but perhaps not worth the extra hundreds of thousands. Nonetheless, she is exceptional and can certainly warrant a higher price.

    While you didn't ask opinions on location, I would strongly suggest moving her to Seattle. Easy for clients to fly in/out and lots of brokers who may have clients. I have sold boats out of Alaska, with great difficulty. Short season is an understatement especially for "visitors." California requires brokers to have a California license so you are greatly limiting your exposure to cooperating brokers. I think broker cooperation will be important for you regardless of the broker with whom you list: lots of potential clients for your Donzi in Florida and the Carolinas. You want to make sure your broker is "broker-friendly."
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    chesapeake46 Senior Member

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    No idea on price but I am in the GR8TRN camp as far a s the " best two days " so, sorry to hear you need to leave that part of your life.

    If I never said so, I really enjoyed your rebuilt thread also.

    Anyway good luck
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  8. SplashFl

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    I once read an article; The average boat owner starts small and buys larger and larger boats until one day he concludes the present one is too large and goes back to a smaller one he keeps till put in a box. You can always lower the price so you might want to start high and give it some time. I believe an HONEST and KNOWLEDGABLE broker is worth their commission.
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    Outstanding info and recommendations. Thank you for taking the time. Your thoughts on Seattle and broker licensing are things I was not aware of. The one benefit to Alaska is no sales tax. I'll need to figure out how that would work if I move it to WA State. And your point about short season in Alaska is spot on. One of the contributing factors in my decision to sell for sure.
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    Sales tax is paid by the buyer where he registers it. So if he registers it in Florida and moves it to Florida he pays Florida sales tax.
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    I am in the process of surveying and perhaps buying in Seattle as a non resident.
    I have two options to avoid sales and excise taxes in WA.
    1. Get a 45 day "visiting" permit and get out of state waters, or I can get out of state waters (check in to CAN for an hour) in that first 45 days then am able to extend for two more 45 day "visiting" permits. This can be done annually I believe.

    2. Get a 1 year "visiting" permit and get out of state withing a year, but then not allowed to enter WA waters for 2 years after that.

    I read up on that on the WA dot gov websites and confirmed with a broker.
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    I came across this ad which arguably could be a comp for mine:

    https://crowsnestyachts.com/product/54-bertram-convertible-1997/

    My boat shows much better and has much newer systems. This one looks like one engine needs rebuilt due to hours and the gens are high hours. On the other hand, it has a Seakeeper that I don't. And overall looks pretty nice. Not sure I could get 2-3 hundred K above this. And this one isn't selling. If this is really the market then I might rethink selling. I might as well just keep if that's all I can get.

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    Unfortunately you may be correct. It seems boat value is about:
    Manufacturer
    Condition
    Year

    The rest of the stuff, gear, upgrades, age of electronics, stabilization or not, location even are less related to selling price.

    I, for one, as a buyer and seller always want to support the price upward. I know most buyers want the buy low and sell high, but that is not how we keep value in our own boat when we want to sell.

    I don't think you should sell for that either, I think that the marketing of your boat needs to be pretty clear about what has been done, even to the point of having invoices totals listed, is that a good or bad idea.

    It's one thing to say Repower 2023.
    It's another to report Reposer 2023 $150K (I have no idea on the number)
    Topside Awlgrip repaint $80K and so on.

    I don't see any reason to not name your price and market her, but spending money to locate her in San Diego or Seattle is questionable. Put your price out there, like you said, no need to sell if the price is 200-300K shy.

    What do you think Judy?
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  14. CaboFly

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    Seattle would be a good location to market the boat IMO. I would inquire about use tax if boat is listed with a broker and is in WA state for purpose of selling. I have heard Cali allows this as a reason and won’t tax if currently listed for sale by out of state owner.
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  15. JWY

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    Gr8trn - I agree with all you said (1) list the relevant costs and year of improvements backed up by invoices (2) name your price and see if you get any interested buyers (3) "warm" weather is not so far away (although I recall from my Alaskan cruising days, August is the best month). So to have her listed in the spring/early summer with her located in Alaska might be worth a shot. But if there's no solid inquiries or visits, then relocate to Seattle.
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