So many UGLY yachts!

But if You look at picture 2 of Pascals post number 1. Here You can clearly see the Italian trick with the detachable bow, in order to stay within the 24 meter EC pleasure boat range.

Install a new EC rule and the Italians will build ASAP a trick around it. Only we Germans adhear to all stupid rules invented in Brussels . I love that Attitude.

HTMO9

Mapism, You got me on the VW diesel emissions fraud but I am a pure Mercedes driver and owner. But this Princess is build for the Italian market. Germany would not accept that removable bow by removing it from the LOA. But mapism, I explicit said, I like the Italen way of doing things. And that was a compliment and not any criticism, my friend.

But if You are telling me, that Princess is a car ferry and the bow is the car ramp of that ferry, I will buy that too .

HTMO9

Hello mapism,

As long as the percentage of the Chineese shareholding stays below the blocking minority of 25 %, I would not call that controlling a company. And the Kuweity slice of the cake is very old, since the 1970th. They are just parking their petro dollars at Mercedes. I am pretty happy with my pretty big percentage of Mercedes shares. I would be much more in sorrow, if the German Government, with the Green party included in it, would be in control of the healthiest German Company.

HTMO9

Its Small, but its Classi



Nostalgic Looks

Are nostalgic looks viable in todays market?...or am I just getting too old?

I keep coming back to this Pilgrim 40 design.

I even went so far as to compare it with the old Trumpy-Mathis houseboats.
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Please don't take this as scariledge, but I can't help but think that the designer of the Pilgrim 40 canal-trawler certainly had in mind's eye these older Trumpy-Mathis designs when he created this design,....just restrained to a 40' foot length vessel.








Is nostalgia marketable, or is it just older eyes? I get the impression that a lot of Americans are reaching back to older more glorious days. I feel really lucky to have grown up in a 'golden age'.

Actually I was trying to say just the opposite. I do NOT find them ugly at all, .....rather I very much like their 'Great Gatsby' nature !

House or a Boat
https://www.yachtforums.com/threads/living-on-a-yacht.4976/page-9#post-358371

or Pilgrim 40
https://www.yachtforums.com/threads/living-on-a-yacht.4976/page-9#post-358374

Also to my eye this design is very appealing, I'd say the designer did very well to incorporate so many desirable features in such a small package.

Perhaps your description is a bit harsh, re: similarity to the older Mathis-Trumpy craft. After a quick image search I've attached what seems to be a representative design, present are features such as a plumb stem and elliptical counter. Granted the stern overhang on the Pilgrim is slightly shorter and finished with a small transom to maximise deck area, entirely understandable and even ideal on the smaller platform. Overall they've produced a very pleasing craft in the traditional style imho.

Apologies but I really have no idea if it's marketable.

That being said, who cares? If this design appeals to you, you've found one (or more) available and you're in the position to take ownership and move aboard, there are probably very few people on this forum who'd discourage you

I certainly didn't grow up in a 'golden age' but would appreciate your choice and would actually consider this option more interesting and sensible than many others. Classic is classic for a reason.

Actually nowadays everyone is working under around that rule, including Americans and Dutch. For example that is why the Viking 92 was redesigned to be the 90.

A reason for stay in under 24 meters LLL are a lot, but the three main ones are the following;
- can be helmed it with a normal powerboat/yacht licence
- under 24 meters the legislation is cheaper and easier, as you do not enter into big boat/small ship territory
- the third and the most important nowadays (and why Viking did the above) is that yachts do not need to stick to IMO SCR for emissions

As as I know Sanlorenzo did the first 23.9 lll 90feet plus when they introduced the Sanlorenzo SL96 in 2014. This was followed by the Ferretti 940, and the Azimut Grande 95 RPH and Sunseeker 95 Yacht in a year.

Hold on to your Hats, Folks!! But, hey, dont worry, its Stable...

a bit top heavy perhaps?

I'm sure any charters on this are Totally Legit...

Seen a couple in Ft. Laud. the other day that ruined my lunch apatite but at least the trend has not (so far) reached the spt. fish world. I guess as long as they sell there will be buyers.