2016 Azimut 66 deck core rotting

Yup. A friend of mine running a 66' Azimut a year or two newer than yours had 3 seperate water leaks into the salon on the boat he was running at the same time.

On a 7 year old boat???? I have a few spots like that on my boat but it s 53 years old

These newer boats are still being built with balsa cores? Why?

Balsa is cheaper than divinicel and bonds a little better

Better bond or not I’m glad my boat has the Dyvinicell core.

i agree. The difference is minimal. I built a 26’ sailboat using dyvinicell core for everything incl the stingers, frames, hull below waterline and that stuff is amazing. I did some testing with scrap pieces and the laminate doesn’t come off.

that said I *SUSPECT* that for mass production and resin infusion it may take more resin to get as good a bond. In the end that will affect weight and cost.

That sucks!! I'm thinking about a 2017 Azimut 66 flybridge and this thread caught my attention. What else (cons) can you tell me about this model. I'm really sitting on the fence about this brand. I'm coming from a 2006 Viking 61 enclosed bridge and moving toward the motor yacht/cruiser style. Thanks!!

I didn't notice this thread back in its days, otherwise I would have answered no to your question.
In fact, I'm extremely skeptical about what the OP said, because to my knowledge they haven't used balsa for decades - if ever.
It would be nice if the OP could post some pics, but I'm not holding my breath, considering that this post was his one and only contribution to the forum...

You could also look at Marquis. While I m no fan of Carvers, their Marquis series wasn’t bad. I helped a neighbor with a 59 a few years ago incl a run to Bimini. Decent boat.

I think I'll wind up going down to Fort Lauderdale boat show and get on a couple of these.... Maybe I'll wind up keeping the Viking....

Talk about sweeping generalizations.
If you would consider replacing a Sanlorenzo with a Bayliner, anyone in his right mind would tell you it's a big step down.
But adding "Americans do things differently", as if you couldn't expect anything but Bayliners from them, would be unfair to say the least.

Brother, Well said.
But you know your fine preaching and fine knowledge is not going to save much in the states.
Luv ya, stay safe and well but in most opinions over here; Muts are the Bayliner of the med.

I will say also, Viking has enjoyed much of the Euro/Med designs and builds.
Princess / Viking comes to mind. Another POS (IMO)

To the purchaser; Your investment MAY do better near where it was built.

So, what would you recommend? As far as well made motor yachts in the 1.5-2m range?? Just curious

Your icon is a SF, your asking about a Mut.
No, I'm not going to start to advise what to shop for (in the 6 foot range, 1.5-2m).
Sorry, the devil made me type that.
I'm sure you meant -20m (65.5 feet)

Well made is in the eye of the kid paying the bills and servicing it well,,, next the guy inverted spilling his blood into the bilges (as a few of us, have already).
My last comment was meant to lean, Your investment MAY do better near where it was built.
Mut support and service here in the states sux. IMO, Marine Max did the brand a disservice also (as everything else they touch).

Brother Mapism Likes Muts. I recall he owns one. He is surrounded by folks that like and can service them with smiles. Some materials and parts are possibly easier to obtain over there also.
Also probably saves by great DIY skills.
I hope the service folk don't bend him over like Mut service does here in the states.

I'm sure, servicing U S built boats in the Med can be a challenge in some ports over there.

So, Let me copy/paste this again; Your investment MAY do better near where it was built.

I remember a boat (Mut) I was managing had cabinet hinges make in Turkey (Grass??).
Seems a brand well recognized for vary levels of hardware quality.
Guess what style, screw patterns, anything to match was not available any more.
BTW, same shitz hinges used in a Maxum (US built) boat.

Big flashy boats, big engines, big wake, big price tags don't mean squab when some thing needs service.

If you do some searches here on YF, You will find lots of folks that have experienced Da Muts.
Many of these folks still like theirs after fixing a pile of stuff.

So, If your shopping, this may be a good idea.

No... I meant the 1.5 million to 2 million range... but yes, also the 60-65 foot range as well

I understand the difference in quality between SF and MY .... but if one is moving from sf to my, what's the choices? Quality choices... yes, I love my viking and the c32 acerts but the fishing days are over for now... my previous was a 2003 52' with 1300 mangrenades... that was an awesome sf as well...

I fear I was editing my post when you were making your replies. Please re-read my post #16.

Man-greandes??
Great example;
Brother Mapism and I luv MAN engines. In my area, There is not any body worth a spit to work on them.
Some try and they need to be avoided.
In the Med, it like U S kids working on SBCs. It's natural.

I also warn all shoppers to check area service before purchasing a MAN powered boat.
I think they are great engines, properly maintained..

Other areas luv their MAN engines and praise their shops. (blessed folk).

How much of a hard on do you have for that med style boat?
OA and others build these here in the states.

Oh, Maybe an used Lazzera??

Quality??? That is up to your budget and surveyor.