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Seeking advice on boat overnight in South Florida

Discussion in 'General Yachting Discussion' started by Drifter, Jul 28, 2024.

  1. Drifter

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    We are becoming empty nesters. We fly to Florida several times per year, but our kids still enjoy boating. Our boat up north is too large to trailer and would take weeks to commute to Florida so we are open to selling it since it has sterndrives and instead purchase a boat for overnighting in Florida. We would like to explore south Florida, the keys, Bimini, and probably the Bahamas but only a handful of times per year, so we need to keep it within a budget. I don't want to be another person who rents a slip year round to only use the boat 15-20 days per year. 2 thoughts:

    1. Buy a 30ish footer with a 10' beam and a HD pickup truck to trailer it directly to the launches, but its small for the kids with significant others, leave it on the trailer in a storage lot away from the coast to reduce the risk of hurricane damage (what is the likelihood the boat will get tipped off the trailer in a hurricane?). Anyone know if this will also be budget friendly from an insurance perspective?

    2. Buy a 40-50 footer to fit kids and friends, store it on blocks in a marina yard, and accept paying the exorbitant lift fees several times per year to reduce the wear and tear of being stored in the water, and accept the long cruises to get around Florida. Again, anyone know if this will also be budget friendly from an insurance perspective?

    There is an overnight yacht rental company near Cape Coral, but they won't permit their boats to go south of Marco or across the peninsula. I've rented dayboats on Boatsetter but I would like to marina hop overnight.

    Thoughts?
  2. Drifter

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    Are there any overnight boat rentals available on Florida's east coast or keys?
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    There are boatyards that might not be too far from the ocean and not too expensive to keep a boat on the hard much of the year. I'm thinking about several boatyards off the St. Lucie River in Indiantown, FL for example. They are just a one or two hour run to the St. Lucie Inlet. If you don't mind a one-day cruise to the Atlantic of Gulf of Mexico, there are a few boatyards on the Okechobee Waterway in mid Florida that are hurricane-safe and fairly inexpensive. The boatyards on the Okechobee Waterway should be considered safe by insurance companies.
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  4. Drifter

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    Is my idea to keep it on the hard and only launch with a lift a few times per year a fairly common practice? Or will they think it odd? Thank you so much!
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    Have you considered a boat club or chartering when you come down?
    Shame some boat collecting dust and rust just for use on rare occasions..

    Having managing absent owners boats with family dreams, it rarely happens or comes together as planned.
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  6. motoryachtlover

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    Also being stored outside in the open is hell on a boat. Inside and out baking in the Florida sun. River Forest Yachting center can put you in a climate controlled building but that is expensive.
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  7. Capt J

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    It really IS NOT when you look at the big picture. Inside, the boat 6 months later almost looks like the day you put it in. No washdowns every 1-2 weeks, no compounding and waxing, no diver, no replacing lines/fenders, no mold, no cleaning the a/c strainer monthly, basically your entire cost is just the storage and maybe 2 hours of mechanical maintenance a month.

    Outside on the hard is the absolute worst way to store a boat in Florida. The interior will be ruined from the heat and covered in mold from the humidity. In the water is somewhere in the middle, but allows you to fly down and use the boat IF you find the time provided you have someone to take care of the boat.

    There's also something in the middle. Look at a boat like a 43' Tiara LS, it can be kept in a high and dry, yet has two usable staterooms.........
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  8. Drifter

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    Southwest Florida Yachts rents overnight bareboat (mostly) trawlers out of Cape Coral but doesn't permit taking them to the keys, east coast, or bahamas. Do you happen to know of any other boat clubs in those locations that permit multiday overnight?
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    Any idea if windows can be left open in indoor covered storage to prevent mold?
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    Why won't it mold on the high and dry like other boats?
  11. motoryachtlover

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    I don’t think River Forest would have a problem with it but I think it would be unnecessary. The building is climate controlled. A 54’ is about 4200/month for hurricane season. I think they might work with you on the others months but you would have to speak to the GM. At the Stuart location that is George Wharton.
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    I used to store a previous boat for 6 months every year way up the Middle River in Ft. Laud in one of the many yards with tall sheds. Twice a month they used to run the engines but even being in the brackish water the bottom growth was excessive so soon as I was back in town she was hauled & bottom painted. Being under the shed with a dehumidifier in the cabin, except for a LOT of pigeon poo, she stayed nice.
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  13. Drifter

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    1 of the 3 buildings at their other location is not climate controlled so I was wondering if its customary to leave windows open in that scenario
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    I was aware they just completed a big expansion at Labelle. I didn’t know one of the buildings won’t be climate controlled. That should be cheaper storage. I can’t imagine it would be a big issue to leave windows and hatches open. Birds do get in the building so factor that. I think you would also be able to run a fan or two but be sure and ask.
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    No boatyard will care if you only use your boat a few times a year, as long as you are current on your yard bills. Don't worry about what anyone else thinks -- it is your life, your boat and you can use it as much or as little as you like. As others have said, George Wharton at River Forest can provide you with a number of storage options.
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  16. Norseman

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    I was also in the Absent Owner Care business in Fort Lauderdale for 17+ years.
    (Not at the high end Yacht Level this page is about but during Hurricane Wilma I had 8 boats, from 92’ and down, the big one a true Mega Yacht)

    A few observations:

    Ventilation and shade is king:
    1) If you can store the boat in the shade, either under a roof or under canvas awnings, life is good if you also have bug screens on portholes and hatches as well as a 110 volt fan going 24/7.
    It will also be easier on the gelcoat and the plexiglass/lexan windows as well as any caulk that may or may not have UV inhibitors.
    2) If you don’t have shade from sun and rain, run Air Conditioning 24/7 and if you don’t have AC, keep a Dehumidifier running 24/7 and make sure it drains to an above the waterline thru-hull.
    (I had a Morgan 41 sailboat where the owner put a dehumidifier on the floorboards with a drain to the bilge, good idea if you have solar panels and if the drain hose stays on: It didn’t and the floorboards got stained and delaminated.)
    3) l looked after a 39’ sailboat (briefly) where the owner was too cheap to pay for shore power and for shade so the boat was baking in the South Florida environment with the sun and the temperatures making the cabin windows move enough to cause leaks, with heavy rain, the boat’s interior got saturated with water and the moisture had nowhere to go, totally ruined insides as well as rust on any metal and mold on any vinyl.

    2 of my own boats had air conditioning and I frequently left them for weeks in the sun with no AC, but with shade and ventilation as well as fans and dehumidifiers: Didn’t really see a difference between doing that and running AC 24/7.

    I also lived on a boat in the Caribbean with no AC, but had plenty ventilation and fans, doable, but too old to do it now, and wife or girlfriends will ditch me, but the boat can handle it if plenty of airflow.
    (Disclaimer: The above is not meant for mega yachts with sensitive TVs, pretty little silk curtains and $10k rugs, they obviously need climate controlled interiors at all times)
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  17. Capt J

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    Because it's not baking in the sun all day and 110F during the day and 85F at night with huge temperature swings causing humidity to build up.
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    Ah, I misunderstood. My bad. I thought you recommended the 43' Tiara LS to be yard stored in the sun because it had some sort of contraction design advantage or ventilation advantage.

    River Forest offers outdoor blocking and electrical but they strap it down against hurricanes for your 5 month lease but there are no in and out lift privileges. They seem seasonal only.
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    A 43' Tiara LS you can fit in most indoor high and dry's that allow you to use it whenever you want.
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