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  1. von

    von New Member

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    Hello, I am new at this so please correct me if I am doing this wrong.
    I have been looking at boats for some time while I heal. I think I want an 80's to 90's Carver 32 Mariner. I would love the opportunity to pick at the brain of someone who has one and really knows their boat. I have many questions. Has anyone swapped out the gas v8's for diesels?
    At what speed does she come up on plain? Lots and lots more.
    Thank you
  2. ranger58sb

    ranger58sb Senior member

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    It's generally not cost-effective to swap gas for diesel. It usually needs to include gears, shafts, genset, sometimes tanks...

    Outlier instances exist where use-cases are favorable, but in general it's a lot of money and only increases the resulting boat value by a dollar and a half.

    -Chris
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  3. Capt Ralph

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    We have all gone thru our first dream boat. Our first romance on the water.
    I would be rich and famous now if I did not spend so much money on my first (or second, or 3rd, or 4th, or 5th,,,) dream boat(s).

    I helped a friend convert his Bertram from gas to diesel. He could be much richer now also.
    Couple of years later, he sold that rig for about 1/3rd half of what he put into it.
    He did pretty good.

    Buy your Mariner, replace the fuel tanks, replace the gas long blocks (don't rebuild), replace the ACs, every pump, every hose and clamp.
    Then find insurance on your over priced, forty something year old, Carver
    When your done and still have money, buy some fuel and go boating.
    :):)
  4. von

    von New Member

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    Thank you Chris. My thinking is considering the age these boats are now reaching and taking into account the hours of use some have achieved I would suspect that many of these boats need major engine work. To replace the gas engines with diesel equivalent or greater power would be folly. But what if I where to replace the gas engines with diesels with the intent to chop the top end performance in favor of better economy? I would be happy with the speed limitations of a full displacement hull. I have not seen anything out there approaching the living space with such a shallow draft in the price range. I am hoping to get the information I need to crunch all the numbers and then decide is such a thing is at all feasible.
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    Sure it's feasible just like spending six figures on a vacation is feasible. The cost of a diesel repower makes your reference to initial price range irrelevant. You'll have a 40 year old boat worth a small fraction of what you spent on it.
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    You may be quite right. Unless I can find the info I need so I can sit down and crunch the numbers I can not give a hard answer. As for re-sale value Frankly I do not give a dam. If I spend the next 10 years full time live aboard traveling all the waters the eastern us has to offer. She will pay for herself. Maybe? I understand that on the inland waters most of the time you are limited to a no wake speed. These v8 are at their most efficient at or near full throttle. A single diesel trawler can get up to 1 gal an hour at hull speed. Unfortunately the draft is excessive for these thin waters. A plaining boat reaches its peak efficiency the moment she come up on plain. Any faster you burn more fuel. Drop off plain and she is a pig dragging near as much water behind her as she displaces. Basic hull Physics. Personally I love diesel. Easy to work on and troubleshoot. I have never understood why anyone would run a gas motor in a boat other than go, go fast.
    Like I said, You may be absolutely right. I keep looking at boats, I do like the layout on the Carver 32. She checks off many of the want boxes, severely lacking in others. As we all know, All boats are a compromise. If Carvers doors where still open, life would be so easy. As they are not, I need to look where I may for information. As far as I have seen so far there is little true info to be had on the internet. Amy one know of other sites I can go to for information?
    I do appreciate all input. Everything helps as it all makes me think. Thank you
  7. Pascal

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    Switching to diesel is going to be expensive. It s not the engines and shafts and props but you will also need to get engine beds fabricated. The generator will have to be replaced as well as you can’t have non ignition protected equipment in the same space as the gen. Will there even be enough room to accommodate them? It a not like these boats have much room in the the engine bay to start with

    yes less HP will help, a little.

    there are plenty of diesel powered boats in that size range with shallow draft. And much better quality than these old carvers. And much better looking too although pretty much anything is better looking than a mariner. :)
  8. ranger58sb

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    Somewhat dependent on how much money you have to throw away... when you create a Frankenboat. If you repower with enough diesel to replicate original performance specs... you spend a lot of money, maybe end up with a boat that behaves decently (or not), and resale value (or liquidation value) won't increase much, if at all. If you repower with underwhelming performance as a target, you might end up with a boat that's inexpensive to operate... but still at significant cost (shafts, gears, props, tanks, genset, etc.)... and you still end up with not much resale value, and maybe only liquidation value. And by the latter, I mean you might have to pay a lot to junk it, part it out, whatever.

    Compare to buying a boat that's set up from the git-go the way you want to use it in the first place. OTOH, running a planing hull at hull speed isn't always comfortable, depending on sea states, direction of travel relative to seas, etc. Sometimes the most comfortable choice is either get up on plane or wallow.

    See next.


    Wrong. Not even close.

    Look at places with the word "Bay" in the name. Chesapeake Bay. Delaware Bay. Great South Bay. Biscayne Bay. Winyah Bay. Others. Or "River." Potomac. Choptank. Chester. St. Johns. Elizabeth. Rappahannock. Others. Or "Sound." Albemarle. Currituck. Others. Et cetera.

    Nothing against hull speed; we run at that quite often. With decent fuel economy, even with significant horsepower... available, but not always being used.

    And you can often run the big bays, rivers, and sounds at displacement speed.... or stay in port and wait for better weather.

    Except for those times when you get caught out in it.


    Carver has a decent rep for making the most of usable space. Good. That sometimes leads to access issues (not just with Carver), so the trade-0ff is that it might take you twice as long to fix anything... because the first part is about getting to the system (e.g., A/C)... and the last part is about putting the system back in place. Bad.

    Not to worry, just keep shopping.

    -Chris
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    LOL Yes she is fugly. The best description I have found so Far is a comparison to a bleach bottle floating on its side. The lay out for living space is fantastic. Only better I have seen is a house boat. I am not even considering that. LOL
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    I have been looking for about 5 years now while I recover from injury's. I may not have ever owned my own boat but Starting at age 6 dad decided I was going to be an electrician like him. Dad was the lead electrician for the San Francisco Port Authority. Basically I grew up a wharf rat. LOL I worked at the Hunters Point Naval shipyard at 16 as a journeyman marine electrician. IBEW. Held a journeyman machinist card most of my life. Certified welder, Diesel mechanic. I even worked a season on a fishing boat. Man that's a lot of work. I have been blessed to have so many really talented people take the time to teach me.
  11. ranger58sb

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    Compare the Carver 32 Mariner to a Mainship 350/390. Another "Chevy."

    Slightly larger, but not hugely so. Single or twin engine versions available. The Mainship with hardtop and full enclosure on the flying bridge gives you a whole 'nother 3-season living area, 4-season if you add AC/heat up there and depending on where you are. Enclosure on the cockpit would add even more usable space in cooler/wet weather, should that be useful. Additional helm at a lower station. Probably double the space of the Mariner, for not a huge increase in OAL.

    Not a recommendation, just an example.

    -Chris