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Burger 80 - Work in Progress

Discussion in 'General Yachting Discussion' started by PPD, Aug 24, 2023.

  1. PPD

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    I've priced around and we are replacing the 8 volt batteries on the Burger for about 5k
    Still alot, but it's an 80' boat. It's not like buying new batteries for my 28' grady white.
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    In the process of replacing most of the electronics on the bridge. Learned last week the new Garmin line of MFD's start around $12,000. each. No value to the ole dollar anymore & as the saying goes, "elections have consequences."
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    or simply ignore brokers comment when it comes to technical issues. Many don’t know anything beyond counting TVs and drink holders
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    Do they, really?
    It seems to me that you've been unable to elect a half decent president in the last 60 years oro so.
    Might as well toss a coin, next time! :p
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    Isn't it great to be able to voice opinions without being "hung-out to dry," as the President is only 1/3 of the government here so regardless of who is in our White House their power is limited. Unfortunately the FAKE NEWS can not be trusted and yet many seem to feel that just because something is printed it must be true and so the system may not be perfect but it certainly appears better then many others.
    Two of my previous commercial tenants; both legal immigrants from Cuba & Venezuela; one a dentist, the other the active partner in a men's health clinic chain have told me if only more American's had spent some time under Socialism they believed we would do a lot better when it came to voting.
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    I could name a few but don’t want to start a political debate. Just wondering though… how many prime ministers and government has your country had in the last 60 years :)
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    Let’s return to restoring a Burger. :)
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    Only goes to prove that I know what I'm talking about! :D
    That said, call me romantic if you wish, but I still spell Country with a capital C.
  9. PPD

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    After a 1500nm she made it. Arrival at The Marina At American Wharf at the head of the Thames River in CT. A bit colder than she's used to, but she's in fresh water and now the refit work can continue in earnest.

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    A few more photos of the arrival.

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    Congratulations on your safe arrival. Can you share the stats on your trip. Fuel burn per hour speed avg. total hours for the trip( engine run time) Any issues. What to look out for ect. My Burger should have been in the Bahamas but have been in the boat yard for over three months. Was only there for a bottom job . arrived Christmas Eve 2023 its now 3/13/24 and not back in yet but hopefully getting close.
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    Strange looking non-skid on the docks. Looks like a spot was missed.
    I fear other leg grabbers are hidden.
    Watch your step??
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    That’s snow!
  14. Capt Ralph

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    Here in the swamps, we don't see much of a need that snow stuff on the docks.
    Sometimes a lil mud, sand or bird stuff finds a place on our docks.
    Sometimes we have to tip-toe over a sleeping gator now & then also.
    Nope, no snow stuff.

    However, down these parts, we do see and understand places for our feet without injury.

    That snow stuff could be covering up other bad places in the dock.
    Who ever shoveled that snow stuff on , maybe should of fixed the holes in the dock first?

    I just hate the idea of somebody's foot or leg falling thru one of those dock holes.
    Then getting that snow stuff on ya.

    I wonder where that snow stuff is imported from. I seen a picture once of a big tanker ship, so full of that snow stuff that it was overflowing on the decks.
    Bubba Ray next door tells me that snow stuff is not measured in gallons or pounds but measured in inches. Bubba Ray figures it is like dipping the vat at the still with a stick.
    Don't know how many inches are in that vat, there is a scratch in the stick we compare to. It's a real hi tech still also.
  15. SplashFl

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    Took my previous Bert to NJ from Fl. one year in March. Learned cold country not a fun place for boating; especially the day that snow stuff was falling on us. Trip back south in Oct. was much better.
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    Did you try to boot-leg any back home? I wonder if that's allowed.
    I don't think it really makes a good non-skid.
    I remember from long ago, traveling down the big-road one morning, some big southbound motor camper was trying to boot-leg a mess of that snow stuff.
    Had it stacked all on top of his camper.
    Must not of had it strapped down to well, he hit a bump and it flew all over the road behind him. Darn Yankee kept going.
    Somebody must have called a street sweeper. The next day, all that stuff cleaned up.

    Betty-Jane said she used to live in that snow stuff.
    Hard to figure her out. She rambles a lot about being abducted by martins and let loose here in the swamps. We just figure those left handed cigarettes she keeps smoking messed up some brain cells somehow.
    She has this picture of her father going to work on that stuff. Somebody must have spilled a lot of it all around,, shoveled it on thick..
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    But still, we do worry about martians here in the swamp.
    Were ready for them if they mess with our still;
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    A guy I know rebuilt one of these, and in doing so began a 24v DC panel early to begin receiving modern gear, shifting 12v reliance to 24 wherever he could as he went along. He found that the old iron LOVED 36 volts for starting, and thus was able to navigate an assortment of 12v batteries to obtain the 12, 24 and 36 (32) he needed. Over a few years he had completed the transition and replaced the solenoids and the alternators etc on the main engines to allow them to thrive on the new 24. The process went smoothly.

    Just sharing a story I heard somewhere...
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    Alright, back to the thread. 32v fun.

    There is still lots of 32v equipment & supplies out there but not usually on a local shelf when you need it.
    20 years ago we started stocking 32v pumps, bulbs and options. This was a great help.
    But as our inventory gets thin, 32v options become more expensive.
    24v stuff seems to be more available these days also.

    For years we have been experimenting with taping 24Vdc off of the 32Vdc banks.
    Started with the master MSD2 unit off of the stb 32v bank.
    Then the 10Kw radar needed 24v so it was tapped off of the port 32v bank.
    The gen-sets have a 12V battery and the small electronics have a 12V battery.
    Then a new windlass that did not offer a 32v model, 24v was tapped off of the stb 32 bank.
    12V inverter was upgraded to 24v with its own 24v telcom battery bank.
    Continuous 32v blowers are not available anymore, 24v continuous blowers were installed last year.

    We are lucky that the original Bertram corp used lots of heavy tinned copper cables and wires. Still perfect sized for extra current that 24v options will need.
    12v would probably not work well.
    I did add #2 and 2/0 cables on new sub-breakers and to the 24v buss supplies.

    The ships original 32v breaker panel has a 24v buss in it now from the stb battery bank. When something fails, it is replaced in 24v and that breaker moves its source to the 24v buss.
    All noisy items (fans, blowers, pumps, windlass) connect to the stb 24v tap.
    The ships original 12v breaker panel has a 24v buss in it now from the port battery bank.
    All electronics connect to clean 12 & 24v sources.

    A few years ago, our old 19 inch, 8v batteries started failing. Uh Oh, none made any more.
    I recently found out you can have them made for you. But that cost and shipping from the left coast was prohibitive.
    Lots of folk went the the 24 inch, 8 volt batteries.
    Some went to golf cart batteries (that did not work).

    I went to where I have told others not to go; Never miss-match batteries.

    Researched the reasons why you can't miss-match batteries; resistance and performance per each cell must be very close or the cells will not deliver, discharge or re-charge correctly.
    Then I found flooded batteries (12 & 8v) that matched the closest and made 2 banks.
    Two, 12v 4Ds and a single 8v on the top in each bank.
    The 12V71TIs have never spun over so fast. (still 32v starting).
    The mains 32v alternators still work. 24v regulators are in the shop collecting dust.
    I had to tune down the ole battery chargers a lil.
    Years later, batteries are still flooded and all working well.

    Remember, there are still 48Vdc boats out there so don't feel special.
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    I think I might have Tourettes...
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    I know I do. Keeps our admins busy watching my post.