How do you run aground coming in Port Everglades?

It's been forever since I ran out of Everglades, but I recall there being a shoal to the side of the inlet?

Underwater groin and shoal clearly marked on charts on the north side extending halfway out the channel. Cut the last two red cans with a 6 ft draft and you're done for. In the late sixties early seventies there were the remains of a shoal island that the surfers used to call "Triangles" for the huge triangular hazard marker on it. In 1977 a wooden Broward name "Polyachi" cut across and wound-up beaching behind the Sheraton Yankee Trader

Red 4 has plenty of water ocean side. The beginning of the N Jetty ends close to it.
Another example of cutting the sea buoy short to save 30 seconds.

Hopefully nobody was injured.
That captain should be out of work by now.

We have all witnessed this this before; Way point or poor navigation cutting the sea buoy short.
All inlets should be approached from the channels opening. That is why it is there.

In all of my life, I have never cut the St Augustine bars short. It is amazing how many locals continue to foul on those N & S bars.

There is an old submerged break water north of the channel. This is what they probably found the hard way.

That's what I was thinking, outside of the channel immediately north of 4...

So, Any new captains looking to push A 143 footer, Line starts in Liquordale..

I consider myself a conservative captain. I will cut short of the sea bouy on certain inlets (cape fear river, Charleston Harbor, St Marys by Fernandina, Savannah). Do you all think that is bad practice on the inlets that take large ships?

You do know of a break water north of Savannah inlet?
Cut anything short is not to smart. To save a few seconds?

Never with passengers on board.

I am a chart hawk so I am aware of the breakwaters and underwater jetties (maybe they are the same). I asked the question so I get whatever answers come my way. But I considered my practice safe and sound with the shipping channels that go a fair distance offshore. To reemphasize I study charts the day or night before and do not want to be the one that finds the jetty.

Ya know I Luv ya. Not stepping on your toes. But there is a safe point here.
The bars of of St Helena, St Catherines, St Simons, St Andrew, St Marys, St Augustine, St Lucie (could be the names) walk around daily as many others on the east coast.
Why cut any short?

Port Canaveral from the north,, When I really have to;; There is a short cut,, only on my boat by myself.
Anybody on board or another boat, it goes way the frack out there then comes in.

You get a splinter in your big toe, And you make a claim, outside the channel, you will die of stuff poisoning. KISS, stay in the channel.
Re the OP, That captain is looking for another job. Lucky for him the tub did not sink.

There's just no reason to cut short. What does it do for you? You save a few hundred feet? An ounce of fuel? Three minutes?

A fair point. Upon further review I looked at St Marys inlet and where I would normally come in at (red arrow) and I must agree with Ralph and OB that I am certainly not gaining much. I did not consider my practice risky but the both of you have made me realize that what I am “gaining” is not much. Would be interested in what Capt J does. Here is a pic of where I would enter the channel prior to this discussion.

Could that caution symbol rite next to your pointer mean anything?
I can not tell you that anything out of the channel is safe. I don't think anybody is going to tell you it's safe to cut buoys short.
Per that chart, it looks like it has deep water and may be safe.
Your the operator that has to make that decision.
You may have made that approach many, many times.
I may have cut that same buoy set short, visiting family. I'll never admit to it.
I'm sure the constant area dredge maintenance keeps the charts correct.

Cut one buoy set short at St Augustine and your boat will get clobbered.
Why would they put an un-needed set of cans at St Marys??

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I have run St. Augustine several times and would not cut sea buoys there or other places similar. I didn’t think the extra cans were un-needed. I thought they were for deep draft ships. Not trying to justify the practice but explain my logic that admittedly has problems on this matter. If you notice in my previous post all of the channels I mentioned were shipping channels. I perceived them to be stable but like I said apparently I am wrong. I appreciate the discussion and hope others get something out of it. I have.

I find it interesting that they have a the life raft deployed, which makes me wonder if they breached the hull on that old breakwater.
Marine Traffic shows she is still in the water and transmitting.

Seems to be a bit of confusion between the terms, Breakwater, Jetty and groins here.