52 Express with Cat power wanted?

Punisherzx12r · Feb 13, 2021

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Why not the 44' HTX, they all came with C18s?
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I looked at one ....they are generally out of my price range

Ben Cooksey · Feb 14, 2021

We have been on the search for 2 years for a Cabo with Cats 43-48 they are very hard to find and when one comes up they are all high$ which is to be expected from a sought after hull no longer produced. The current 48 with C-18’s was listed at 799 then went to 850 so that guy has plenty of negotiating room. That boat was 1.2 rigged out new in 07’ shows how well the original Cabo holds value. Replacement cost on that 48 is probably around 3 mill for a comparable boat in today’s market.

Punisherzx12r · Feb 14, 2021

Ben Cooksey said: ↑

We have been on the search for 2 years for a Cabo with Cats 43-48 they are very hard to find and when one comes up they are all high$ which is to be expected from a sought after hull no longer produced. The current 48 with C-18’s was listed at 799 then went to 850 so that guy has plenty of negotiating room. That boat was 1.2 rigged out new in 07’ shows how well the original Cabo holds value. Replacement cost on that 48 is probably around 3 mill for a comparable boat in today’s market.
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there are some 45's on the market now...and i may end up with one if a 52 doesn't surface. Like to have one sitting in the OCMD slip by the end of April

Capt J · Feb 14, 2021

Punisherzx12r said: ↑

there are some 45's on the market now...and i may end up with one if a 52 doesn't surface. Like to have one sitting in the OCMD slip by the end of April
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I'd rather have a newer 44' HTX with less hours than a 52' for the same money. The 52' was a very good riding boat, and all areas were bigger, but not usable bigger.....bigger salon.....bigger helm area.....slightly longer cockpit......but none of it really usable or adds anything to the use.....i'd also venture to say the 44' HTX rides just as good as the 52'. It would've been nice if they figured a way to add another stateroom to the 52' or simply made the 2nd stateroom larger.......

Punisherzx12r · Feb 14, 2021

Capt J said: ↑

I'd rather have a newer 44' HTX with less hours than a 52' for the same money. The 52' was a very good riding boat, and all areas were bigger, but not usable bigger.....bigger salon.....bigger helm area.....slightly longer cockpit......but none of it really usable or adds anything to the use.....i'd also venture to say the 44' HTX rides just as good as the 52'. It would've been nice if they figured a way to add another stateroom to the 52' or simply made the 2nd stateroom larger.......
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we need a 54 HTX with 2400 C32B's

Punisherzx12r · Mar 9, 2021

Fellas....how much crankcase pressure should the 1550 have at cruise ?

Punisherzx12r · Feb 1, 2023

To finish off this old thread...i did buy the 52 with 1550 MAN's 2 years ago. All good so far...very happy. Lily Rose out of Ocean City

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That's an advertisement that leads to a lot of questions. Why did it need heads and turbos? What other negligence impact on it? What's the service history? No, it wouldn't lead me to think it's normal. In fact, I'd think it's highly abnormal and there may be other issues. Don't listen to ads and scuttlebutt. Get a certified MAN expert to do the engine survey.

I can't speak to a 1550 CR but can to 800's, 1100's, 1200's, and 1360's. Experience since 2012 on the 800's and 1360's, since 2014 on the 1100's and from 2016 to 2019 on the 1200's.

All have religiously followed the MAN maintenance schedules. If we were coming up on due maintenance soon but going to be cruising then it was done early and every subsequent time moved up, so you might have 350, 750, 1100 instead of 400, 800, 1200.

Now, I'll add a bit to that. I'm a firm believer in the critical aspect of the 200 hour service and the checks involved as well as tightening the cylinder heads at 400 hours and checking them at other times. We do engine checks before and after every use. We keep the bottom clean with 3 to 4 week intervals.

I will detail the 1360, since the closest in size to the one you're considering. Now, let me say, I'd be very hesitant on the one you're looking at until much better information based on the information in the ad.

Not that some timing was for our convenience and some to fit yard offseason pricing.

1360, purchased October 2012

10/2012-30 hour check includes all of M1 and M2 items checking every hose, tension belt and hauling for a quick check of shaft alignment to make sure the engine mounts had not settled. No abnormal findings.

11/2012-100 hour check. Repeat of above. Not necessary but we did it. I'm a firm believer that things loosen during break in and hard running as well. We don't run like SF's perhaps but we normally cruise at 2000 RPM and 35 knots with some slow running at 1700 RPM, 26 knots.

1/2013-200 hours. the above plus changed fuel filters, not because they needed it, but because the plan said to.

7/2013-400 hours. Did the above plus retightened cylinder head bolts. changed oil, filters, air filter, and reset valve clearance although found very near to spec still. Hauled for Propspeed.

12/2013-600 hours. Basically same as 200. Still no abnormal problems.

8/2014-800 hours. Same as 400. Just checked valve clearance, no adjustment. (Oh to note at all oil changes sent samples for testing).

10/2014-820 hours, 2 years. Replaced both valve caps on expansion tanks. Cleaned intercooler, turbocharger, heat exchanger.

8/2015-880 hours. Did 1000 hour service, same as 200 plus changed oil based on 1 year mark since last change, even though only 80 hours. Hauled for Propspeed and to check shafts and props and decided bottom paint was fine.

3/2016-1020 hours, Did 1200 hour service. Also hauled for bottom paint and checked shafts and props. New Propspeed.

9/2016-1160 hours. Did 1400 hour service plus 4 year service. This included changing all coolant and all hoses.

3/2017-1300 hours. Did 1600 hour service.

9/2017-1500 hours, Did 1800 hour service. Hauled for Propspeed and to check props and shafts.

2/2018-1640 hours. Did 2000 hour service.

8/2018-1750 hours. Did 2200 hour service plus 2 year service. Hauled for bottom paint, Propspeed and to check props and shafts.

11/2018-1970 hours. Did 2400 hour service.

3/2019-2160 hours. Did 2600 hour service.

6/2019-2310 hours. Did 2800 hour service.

8/2019-2400 hours. Hauled for Propspeed and to check props and shafts. Replaced props with spares and sent for polishing to become spares.

10/2019-2500 hours. Did 3000 hour service.

2/2020-2700 hours. Did 3200 hour service.

8/2020-2850 hours. Did 3400 hour service. 4 Year service. Propspeed. Bottom Paint.

1/2021-3000 hours. Did 3600 hour service.

No monies spent outside of service described above and filters. No repairs, as such. No replacing turbocharger or heads.

Now, I'm not advising you to buy a MAN, just advising you to dismiss all the trash you're hearing. If you do buy one, use your fear to make you baby it like you've never babied anything. Note that we've done 20% more so far than the manual calls for, but we'd rather do things short of the hours than to run over.

All the MAN's we deal with run like new, all still hit slightly above rated RPM with normal load and on it with very heavy load. Is it a testament to the engine or our maintenance? I'd think some of both. Among the other diesels we maintain are MTU's and Yanmars (in jet ribs). We've had good luck with them, although not quite as good as the MAN but then the MTU are much larger horsepower. I have to caution as well that we're at great advantage over many with our own staff and a great yard relationship.
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Slimshady · Feb 2, 2023

Good to hear. Hope your enjoying it.

Capt J · Feb 2, 2023

Punisherzx12r said: ↑

To finish off this old thread...i did buy the 52 with 1550 MAN's 2 years ago. All good so far...very happy. Lily Rose out of Ocean City
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The MAN boats rode better and performed better. The C32's were about 4500 lbs heavier and upsetted the balance of that boat and they were NOISY at the helm. You made the right choice.

Ben Cooksey · Feb 18, 2023

We got our 43FB about 2 years ago as well, very pleased with the MAN CR900's in that boat. We came from an older hatteras with Detroits so a big step up.

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