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  1. Rodger, Jun 28, 2019
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    To day Bella Vita (248') was up bound Welland Canal
    X Northern Star built by Lurssen Capture.PNG
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  2. Rodger, Jun 28, 2019
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    Notice to delivery Captains
    Just a few things to remember
    If you yacht has a safe make sure you have combination
    If your children are traveling with you make sure you have a letter from your spouse
    Make sure you report any cash over ten thousand dollars
    Guns do not want to talk about just don't bring them
    A lot of strange things this year
  3. olderboater, Jun 28, 2019
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    Great advice Rodger. I once saw charterer's held up in Panama because they didn't have the combination to the safe. Charter company couldn't reach owner who then didn't have it with him.
  4. Rodger, Jun 28, 2019
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    Taking up a classic Burger tomorrow morning
    Shepsl XI 75' Built 19886 Capture.PNG Capture.PNG Capture.PNG
  5. chesapeake46, Jun 29, 2019
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    I saw that Burger in St. Michaels Maryland just a couple weeks ago. That is one nice looking, well kept boat, I could not find any info about her on the net tho, only her predecessors.
  6. Rodger, Jun 29, 2019
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    Took her up to day she a 1964 not a 1986 had a good run really nice shape
  7. Capt Ralph, Jun 30, 2019
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    Nice inside? Run well? Details?? Come on, pretty ship give us some poop.
    I luv these ole ships and you took her up? Bet ole original Detroit power also?
    Bet a few old farts would luv some details also.
  8. Scott W, Jun 30, 2019
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    Someone is taking Bella Vita all the way to Lake Michigan. At 250', that has to be one of the biggest yachts to travel that far into the Great Lakes system in a while. Considering the pilot requirements, it's costing a fortune.
  9. Rodger, Jun 30, 2019
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    Yes as she is foreign flagged she needs pilot for the St Lawrence River and Montreal section of Seaway and Welland Canal and lake pilots as far as Port Huron.
    Cost is approx $ 35,000 each way.
    American yachts only need St Lawrence River pilots and canal pilots no Lake Pilots
    Any yacht greater than 35 Meters needs pilots
  10. Rodger, Jul 1, 2019
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    Another quick trip up the canal today on a new 80' Viking S/F
    She had to come St Lawrence River through Montreal as she was to high for the Erie Canal system, which adds about 1600
    miles to the trip. Capture.PNG
  11. Scott W, Jul 1, 2019
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    That's interesting and actually about half of what I was imagining it might cost, although it's clearly not cheap. I didn't realize they do not need a pilot to sail from Port Huron and beyond. I thought a pilot was needed for any navigation anywhere in the Great Lakes system (for foreign flagged, 35M+).
  12. Riknpat, Jul 1, 2019
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    Is the pilot cost variable based on length? Northern Star, now Bella Vita, was sold in 2017. The ask was 83 million euros although I don't know what she actually sold for. She charters for 650,000 USD a week + expenses so against these numbers a 35,000 fee is kind of inconsequential. But for a smaller boat of say 35-40M it would be an important expense.
  13. Rodger, Jul 2, 2019
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    The cost is the same for any size boat over 35
  14. Rodger, Jul 2, 2019
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    Pilot Fees

    TABLE

    Column 1 Column 2
    Item     Pilotage Service Basic Charge ($)
    1 Through the Welland Canal, if the pilot is changed at Lock 7,
    (a) for that portion of the passage between the northern limit of the Canal and Lock 7 2,610
    (b) for that portion of the passage between Lock 7 and the southern limit of the Canal 2,610
    2 Between Southeast Shoal and Toledo or any point on Lake Erie west of Southeast Shoal 2,790
    3 Between points on Lake Erie west of Southeast Shoal 1,648
    4 Between Southeast Shoal and the Port Huron Change Point or any point on the St. Clair River, if the pilot is not changed at the Detroit pilot boat 4,853
    5 Between Southeast Shoal and Detroit, Windsor or any point on the Detroit River 2,790
    6 Between Southeast Shoal and the Detroit pilot boat 2,019
    7 Between Toledo or any point on Lake Erie west of Southeast Shoal and the Port Huron Change Point, if the pilot is not changed at the Detroit pilot boat 5,626
    8 Between Toledo or any point on Lake Erie west of Southeast Shoal and Detroit, Windsor or any point on the Detroit River 3,623
    9 Between Toledo or any point on Lake Erie west of Southeast Shoal and the Detroit pilot boat 2,790
    10 Between Detroit, Windsor or any point on the Detroit River and any point on the Detroit River 1,648
    11 Between Detroit, Windsor or any point on the Detroit River and the Port Huron Change Point or any point on the St. Clair River 3,652
    12 Between the Detroit pilot boat and any point on the St. Clair River 3,652
    13 Between the Detroit pilot boat and the Port Huron Change Point 2,835
    14 Between points on the St. Clair River 1,648
    15 Between the Port Huron Change Point and any point on the St. Clair River 2,019
  15. captaintilt, Jul 2, 2019
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    I just passed the Shepsl in the Canal the other day, great looking boat!
  16. Rodger, Jul 5, 2019
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    Busy few days Tall Ships in Canal Empire Sandy Flag Toronto 135' Capture.PNG
  17. Rodger, Jul 5, 2019
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  18. Rodger, Jul 5, 2019
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  19. Rodger, Jul 5, 2019
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  20. Perlmudder, Jul 11, 2019
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    upload_2019-7-11_11-36-19.jpeg Blue Nose 2 on Lake Erie just outside the Welland Canal
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