Help design the ultimate retirement boating plan!

To possibly help you with boat choices, what is it you like about the Azimut 55S? What led you to select it? Are you talking new or used? If used, what age?

As to home port, are you going to continue living in Houston and keep your boat in FL or the Caribbean? Asking that as I think the convenience of flying to and from would be important if you are.

Well, you can search this site and you'll see that you're not going to get recommendations here for Azimut nor their warranty service which is handled by one dealership chain 100%.

East coast is only one day. However, looking on the West Coast, a lot of moderate prices in the Cape Coral area, even a bit below Ft. Myers. Now, when it comes to beautiful towns I'd recommend Naples and Venice but they're pricier.

As to other boats, I'd suggest looking at Sunseeker. We own a 65 Manhattan, but they recently introduced a 52 Manhattan (Flybridge) which comes with shafts or pods, top speed around 31 and cruise 26 or so, three cabins plus a small crew cabin if you so choose. We love our 65 and now they have a new 66.

If you're willing to stretch size a bit, an altogether different style boat would be a Hatteras 60.

If you're happy with an Express, you have the Sunseeker Predator, a good boat. They now come in 57 and 68 models. You not only lose the flybridge but by going to that style you loose some cabin space as the galley is moved to the lower deck.

I'd also look at the Riva 63's if flybridge not a must, come in both an open and coupe model. We have a coupe. Nice WOT of 40 knots and cruise of 35 knots.

Sorry if it seems leading you toward what we own, but it's natural as it's what we preferred after extensive looking.

For Caribbean cruising, I would push the size up a bit from your starting point. One significant challenge you face getting to and then in the Caribbean is range. The Riva is very short of it with only around 260 nm. The Sunseeker 65 has the same range at cruise but gains up into the 400 nm range at slower speeds. Even the Hatteras 60 isn't much better than the Sunseeker.

The Azimut 55S only has fuel capacity of 423 gallons. It's range is just barely over 200 nm.

If greater range is important to you, then means one of two things. Either going to have to go with a boat more designed for long range cruising and slower or go to a larger boat. As an example the Hatteras 70 has range over 500 nm.

You're going to need to reevaluate what is most important from the boat, what speeds and range you can live with, then it will be easier to focus on boats that fit your needs.

Heck of a fuel burner on a retirement budget. Muts don't have many fans around here.

Can you fill us in on what your needs really will be vs looking at a flashy tub?

If you're going to dive with tanks, get something with a LOT of cockpit deck space. You'll need it for the dive compressor, tanks, and the suited-up divers. There should be a lot of storage under that deck, too. You'll want multiple generators, a huge fresh water tank, and a high output water-maker. If the single gen goes down; the party is over, and nobody uses more water than divers. And, remember that for guys, rinsing off in the cockpit IS a shower. For others, it's a reason to take a shower

Just (buyers survey) sea trialed a wonderful a cockpit 49 De Fever. That is where you need to start looking.

Most of the Euro-style yachts like the Azimut are short range boats designed to harbor hop. If you intend to cruise down to the Caribbean and wander around the islands, perhaps you should consider a boat more designed for long-range, offshore use -- Fleming, Offshore, and Outer Reef come to mind. Not sure about Marlows and/or Hampton Endurance but they might work as well.

but the Azimut is so pretty

Retirement vessel,...room for 3 couples??
Guess on boats can get real old in a short period.

Like fish, they stink after 3 days.

You must have the wrong guests then. We have many others who travel with us and we love to share the enjoyment of cruising with them. They enhance our experience.

3 couples on a 55s is ok for a week end but that boat will be very crowded for anything longer especially without a flybrige which gives you a lot of extra space.

Besides range, you re going to run into other issues like storage, refrigeration, etc... with 6 people on a boat that size.

Don't forget to take generator usage into account. Typically you spend a lot of time on the hook when in the Bahamas and Carib so Figure 30 USG a day. That's a quarter of your tank every three 3 days... fuel docks can be some distance away in the islands and they sometimes run out. Also, having just one generator is ok for a short trip but you need two if you're going to spend a lot of time down there. These euro style boats have lousy ventilation, loose the gen you, no AC it's game over

A boat like this is ok for an occasional short Bahamas trip but not for extensive cruising and any trip beyond the central Bahamas will be stretching the boat ability.

This is a great thread I picked up on because I am considering the Manhattan 52' for Caribbean cruising. The idea was to take it from Miami to the BVIs where it would be based, for regular trips around the Island and to other places like St Barts etc. I really wonder how the 52' will handle the 4-6' tradewind sea's between Islands. I don't think I would mind reducing speed to 10 knots for the times when I need to max out range to get to get across a passage.

I've also wondered about the electric capacity though, and whether it's generated from the desiels fuel cap. One difference is I would mostly be alone, or with smaller company.

find a good surveyor..... look at older Hatteras M Y s that spent their time in fresh water...you can not beat Hatteras for practicality ...

Great suggestion, thanks Saltysenior. I have started looking into the Hatteras 60', there are some things about it I love, like the RANGE; ~ 1000NM at 10 knots. Also the extra length over the Manhattan 52' really shows with the extra spacious flybridge. There are things I like less, or may take more getting used to like no helm on the main deck, only a few tiny windows on the lower deck, and of course, the price is about 2.5x higher for a current model compared to a Manhattan 52' current model.

I am going to try and take the opportunity to step on both yachts in person to get a real feel for them.

You ll be ok around the BVI and USVI but s a longish run beating into the trades and waves between the Virgin and St Maarten/St Barth’s. You need something that will cut nicely into the typical 6 footers

Dropping a planing hull to 10 knots makes me sick to think about the rolling back and forth. Maybe a boat that isn't as fast at top end and has larger stabilizers. Fleming, Marlow, Offshore, etc.