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  1. YachtForums

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    After several months of intensive work, YF's new classified listing system is set to launch in June. It's an entirely new, dedicated platform for the brokerage industry to display their listings on YachtForums. The interface will be much like YF's reviews; a more immersive user experience that favors the scroll. In addition, we've also spent several frustrating weeks setting up Amazon's SES service for mass email marketing.

    We've evaluated just about every classified listing system in the industry. I think we have a better way forward! At the very least, it will present an amazing opportunity for brokers who are serious about selling boats; exposure to a membership built on serious people seeking information; not the curiosity seekers that most yachting websites attract. Most importantly, we have the ability to put each listing on the first page of Google.

    We're taking a slightly different approach with YF's listing system. It will require the broker to actually do some work to sell the boat, as opposed to simply uploading a copy & paste spec sheet w/ pics. Every boat has a story and we're asking for that story to accompany the listing. The most complete listings will be featured on the front page of YachtForums and included in our monthly mailers. With nearly one million monthly readers in peak season, the exposure is unprecedented!

    More details to follow in the coming days...

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  2. olderboater

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    A few questions:

    1-Are the monthly mailers opt-in or opt-out?
    2-What will be the rules for posting and response? Will it be like the reviews with no further comments allowed? Will it be like the current sale listings with restrictions on responses?
    3-Will there be a cost for listing? If so, I assume this will be published at some point. Who will be allowed to list? Only approved brokers? All brokers? Dealers? Manufacturers? Individual owners?

    Or are all these questions answered in the "details to follow in the coming days?"
  3. YachtForums

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    Good questions OB and thank you for asking!

    1. All mail will conform to the Can-Spam Act. That was the purpose of setting up the verified service through Amazon.

    2. There will not be a comment section in the listings however it could be enabled. It could also open Pandora's box!

    3. The cost of a listing will be comparatively inexpensive; based on volume.

    4. I'm still weighing manufacturers and dealers.
  4. Beau

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    Congratulations and good luck. I know you have been thinking of this for quite a while
  5. olderboater

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    A Very Very Very Very Very long while. lol

    I do think his current approach is a good one though so guess moving slow and having many discussions has paid off.
  6. YachtForums

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    Thanks Beau. As you know I've contemplated this forever; trying to make decisions in the best interest of the community while evolving the business model. There's a lot of good reasons for going in this direction; unrelated to additional income. I'm all about expanding the collective knowledge base. Listings will bring more buyers to YF, therefore more discussions. Those listings also represent more indexed links, thus bringing more traffic to YF.

    Like OB said... a Very, Very long time coming, but communities can be sensitive and we don't want to rock the boat. This is why I have discussed this privately with our senior members. We're all in this together!
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    On a side note, there are other avenues to increase revenue and each of them are a WHOLE lot easier than a developing and maintaining a classified listing service! It would be easier to implement several Ad Networks such as AdSense or Taboola, but that would litter the forums with unrelated advertising; diluting topic and theme. Or I could do mail outs to our database on behalf of advertisers. I'm strongly opposed to all of this, so a listing service makes the most sense.

    I have faith that the brokerage industry appreciates YachtForums and they are likely to help add to the collective knowledge base. I think they are all beginning to understand the value of topic-rich social medias and how contributing helpful information can benefit their bottom line. If not, my finger is on the delete button.
  8. olderboater

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    I look at it more as a broker generated review of a boat they have on the market, than as a listing that just gives you an equipment list. Much like any review but just known to be biased.
  9. Capt Ralph

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    Long in the making. I'm sure all will do well.
    Looking forward to your exciting new YF's new classified listing system and great success.
  10. Kevin

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    Exciting times. :)
  11. Fishtigua

    Fishtigua Senior Member

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    I like looking through brokerage sites anway, you can always find some gems hiding (and the odd old bucket).

    I too look forward to this new feature, a great addition I feel. Thanks Carl.
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    Thank you for not doing THAT.
    Really, really, thank you.
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    Thanks for noticing!

    The Arpanet was founded on the premise of exchanging information, but the commercialization of the internet has diluted this to a mix of infotainment and advertising. Pop-ups, pop-unders, flash, hijacks, embeds and a myriad of methods designed to bombard readers with product messages is creating an unwelcome environment.

    People come to YF seeking information about yachts, not investments, insurance or sneakers. I believe if advertising is relevant to a reader's interest, it's generally acceptable as long as it's not "in-your-face". I'd like to believe the yacht builders that maintain a presence on YF are complementary to our site, but it is more than a branding opportunity to them. These builders have a sense of community and appreciate our discussions.
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    If only other forum administrators felt the same way!
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    Some of the worst offenders are forums owned by Internet Brands which have been turned into cash-cows that leave the user with an experience akin to being hounded by playing card pushers on the Vegas strip. I used to think other webmasters & admins were short-sighted - putting income before community - but with an ever-changing digital landscape and the rapid expansion of the internet, maybe they were right? Personally, I think our best days are still ahead. :)
  16. Milow232

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    Any plans when this is going to set sail?
  17. Capt Ralph

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    Sail?? Sail????
    When is it going to crank up, belch some YF smoke, and rock the web???
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    It may come as a surprise to you Ralph but motor vessels are known to set sail
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    What would the world be, if men could not set sail and go to sea :)!

  20. Fishtigua

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    Too true.
    I still love to sail. I had a fantastic 4 months sailing around the Caribbean on a 28ft wooden sailboat with no engine, just a small solar panel for the radio/lights and some gas to cook on.

    Simple things in life restore the soul.