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  1. olderboater

    olderboater Senior Member

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    I'm not familiar with Canadian Rum at all. I did find three rum distilleries in Canada but all were East of this location I think and I couldn't find any of their brands in Germany. Guess we'll wait for Rodger to enlighten us. Or Ralph should know.
  2. HTMO9

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    Bernd1972 would be best one to answer, as Flensburg is THE Rum town in Germany :D. There is much Rum imported into Germany but in barrels or in 20 ft liquid cargo containers but a complete tanker full of Rum ?
  3. Rodger

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    This vessel usually brings rum to Ontario and unloads at a dock in the canal. When I get a chance will check with seaway on her cargo to see where she did load.
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    So, is Cuxhaven in Ontario? Confused minds want to know...lol
  5. Rodger

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    no there is no Cuxhaven in Ontario.
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    I guess I haven´t too much to contribute concerning canadian rum in Germany. Here in Flensburg ( Germany´s Rum Capital) are not too many destillers left, back in the old days there were about 150 destilleries. Haven´t heard of canadian rum destillers beeing offered here so far, even though I know that Lunenburg, Nova Scotia is probably another unknown rum capital on this planet. Over here most imported rum is from the Caribbean, Cuba, some more exclusive qualities from Barbados and the smaller islands. But canadian rum sold in Germany? I´d be curious to learn more about that.
  7. Rodger

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    Well another ship aground in the Great Lakes.
    I think if I was running a yacht in the Great Lakes and approaching a Great Lakes Ship I would give them a wide birth at the rate they run aground.

    Frontenac grounds in Lake St. Clair

    10/22 - Lake St. Clair - About 4 p.m. Wednesday the Frontenac grounded as she was entering the lake down bound, coming to a stop just outside of Buoy 29 at the north end of the lake. It is unknown what caused the vessel to leave the channel and there are no reports of damage, the bottom in this area is soft mud and clay. The tug Superior arrived on scene about 8 a.m. Thursday to survey the grounding and ordered a second tug to assist. The tug Colorado should be on scene early afternoon Thursday to help pull the Frontenac free. From there the vessel will head downbound to the Belle Isle Anchorage for i

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  8. HTMO9

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    The grounded ship Jo Spirit mentioned above with destination Cuxhaven, Germany is indeed going to Cuxhaven regulary.

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    This picture was taken in Cuxhaven, a harbour town at the mouth of the Elbe River, 60 NM northwest of Hamburg. The Norwegian product tanker (short sea shipping size, 6.200 tdw) is transporting denatured or sometimes called industrial alcohol (C2H5OH, sorry rc, not really drinkable) for the production of bio fuel or other chemical processes but not Rum.

    Imagine, 6.200 tons of drinkable full prove fine Canadian Rum inbound northern Europe loaded in a tanker!!!! The combined Custom Authorities of Northern Europe would go on highest alert :), I would say, go nuts. Think about the amount of alcohol tax sloshing around in these tanks.

    Diverting a Rum loaded ship like this to Norway, could even lead to a state crisis. Norseman will remember, what happened in his country, when they found 800 Liters of Rum in a potable water tank of a Norwegian Submarine in Norway, (actually this submarine had been in a yard for refit in Cuxhaven before) what a small world.
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    Sad but true!
  10. bernd1972

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    Well, in Norway that amount would be sufficient to keep half the adult population completely drunken for 3-4 days, with headache for the rest of the week.
    :D:D:D
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    We are also transporting that kind of cargo from ime to time. Dangerous like dynamite. They got pretty lucky during on the St. Lawrence Seaway with that grounding. The smallest leak, a little spark and this full prove denaturated alcohol explodes faster than rocket fuel. And even more dangerous, it burns with invisible flames. Very dangerous for the fire fighters. And on top of all that difficulties some of that stuff needs very elaborate (and expensive) inert gase procedures, as the normal exhaust gases may react with the alcohol and/or contaminate the cargo fluid.

    But the biggest load of (Jamaica) Rum we have ever transported, was in one of those:

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    An the ship was escorted by custom patrol boats virtually upon entering German waters :D.
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    Reminds me of the legendary story about the Mary Celeste...
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    This guy not to smart following a 740 ' ship down the St Lawrence River Capture.PNG
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    ST. LAWRENCE SEAWAY MONTREAL
    Record water levels risk $50M-per-day closure of St. Lawrence Seaway.

    6/1 - Heavy spring rains have swelled Lake Ontario to its highest level in nearly a century -- a situation that could force officials who operate the St. Lawrence Seaway to balance the need to protect low-lying communities against the economic incentive to keep the vital shipping artery open.

    The St. Lawrence Seaway connects the Atlantic Ocean to the Great Lakes through a series of channels, canals, and locks. It handles more than 35 million tonnes of cargo per year and supports an estimated 227,000 jobs.

    The International Lake Ontario-St. Lawrence River Board has the outflow taps at the Moses-Saunders Power Dam in Cornwall, Ont., opened as wide as possible to get rid of the glut of rain water while still allowing shipping to continue.

    “It is indeed the highest flow rate that shipping has ever encountered on the St. Lawrence Seaway,” St. Lawrence Seaway Management Corp. spokesperson Andrew Bogora told CTV Ottawa on Tuesday.

    The board decided to keep the dam’s flow rate at a record-setting 10,200 cubic metres per second on Monday, and will reassess that call next Monday.

    Pushing the outflow beyond 10,200 cubic metres per second would halt shipping due to unsafe currents -- a rare situation, but not an unprecedented one.

    “In 1993, navigation was permitted five days a week and suspended for two to permit the high flow rates,” Bogora said. “That could be an alternative if the demand materializes.”
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