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  1. YachtForums

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    I've heard this is one of the hottest summers on record, but I wouldn't know. I've been behind the keyboard all summer. I'm hoping that will change soon. Within the next few days, we're uploading an extensive script that has taken weeks of around-the-clock code work to complete.

    This script is intended to recapture our search engine rankings that has suffered ever since the release of Google Panda 4.1, in which duplicate content is penalized. Ironically, the release of Google's revised algorithm came at the same time we migrated to XenForo in October of 2014, but I didn't become aware of the problem until April of 2015 after a random check of Google Analytics. Much to my dismay, our sitemap had been rejected several days after submission in October 2014. We lost 1000's of indexed URLs. Since that time, we have worked on a solution that would permit our content to remain w/o penalty.

    Currently, every review and every news piece we publish goes right to the top of Google and stays there, but the threads & posts in the forums have suffered a penalty due to news pieces mixing in with discussions. Google sees this as duplicate content, so over the next few days, I'm manually doing 301 redirects to over 2300 news pieces and around 200 of YF's reviews. I'm fortunate to work with one of the best coders in the biz and he wrote a custom canonical script specifically for us. After all the canonical redirects are complete, a new builder hub page is being uploaded that should make our content taste like sugar to bots.

    For the past 11 years, YF has topped a Google search - first page of results - for every brand of yacht builder in the world, but not for the past 10 months. Now we're on Google page 2 to 3 (or worse) of brand specific keyword search results. This should be rectified soon.

    Sorry guys, this is what you get when a hydrodynamic engineer, turned magazine editor, turned forum admin is at the wheel! My fingers are crossed. And so are my eyes at this point.
  2. menkes

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    Hi
    I am not a software expert, and my question is a layman question, if Google is such a headache why not search for more suitable other tools ?
  3. YachtForums

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    Because Google is God in our world...

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    Ultimately too, most of the things that would negatively impact you on google will also on other search engines. Sometimes takes a while before they do.
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    I just want to express my thanks for all your hard work. I find this forum a great source of info and knowledge. Glad to be a part of it.
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    Carl, that post made this old head positively spin. All I could think while reading it was 'Better him than me'. Thanks for all your hard work, not just on this but throughout the years; not just for the work we see you do but for all the studying you've had to do to stay on top of all the computer stuff you've had to learn. For 12 year olds it's normal I guess, but you went through school when they were still teaching the 3 R's and didn't allow calculators. You never cease to impress.
  8. YachtForums

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    Thanks, but it's the senior members of YF that have created this resource. It's my job to insure their knowledge is protected and remains accessible to those seeking their wisdom. That part has become a full time job. Had I known the challenges that laid ahead, I may have taken a different career path, but as YF grew, the business model wasn't as important as the friendships forged, the positive change we've brought about in the industry and a general sense that we've all created something that will transcend our individual contributions.
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    Heh. Type "Anchorlift Windlass" in to Google and see what comes up on the first page. We'll teach them to screw with a YF Senior Member!
  10. YachtForums

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    Thanks Ed, but I'm not smarter than a 5th grader. I'm just a good juggler. If it weren't for Lars, Kevin, Ron and one very gifted coder that has taken sympathy on my limited time and resources, we'd be wallowing in the bowels of Google. You guys contribute more than me and I often feel guilty about it. I have specific knowledge on certain topics, but I often don't have time to get drawn into a debate. Thanks to everyone who allows me to quietly observe from the sidelines.
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    For those who think that Carl is some kinda coding genius, engineer geek, knower of everything about every boat builder, he is also a beautiful person. I first met Carl several years ago at a YF raft-up at FLIBS and soon realized his professionalism is unsurpassable and his dedication to YF is fanatical. He sets my bar both professionally and personally. I am appreciative for all I learn from him and for all he has enabled me to learn from YF and especially for being the connector for so many good friends among the YF contributors.

    Judy
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  12. YachtForums

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    Judy, these guys are going think you're on the payroll! Thank you for the kind words, but to anyone reading this... believe half of what you see and none of what you read on the internet!

    I have a fan club. Her name is Judy. :)
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    I forgot to add modesty to Carl's list of attributes. :D
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    Just to round out this discussion about Google...

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  15. YachtForums

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    Interesting Kevin.

    In another life, my mom asked me to read a book called the Bible Code by Michael Drosnin. The book was about the discovery of numerical letter sequences within the text of the Torah. Einstein theorized the Torah contained codes, but it took a modern day mathematician; Prof Ely Rips along with the processing power of a Cray 9000 computer to crack the first layer of these codes. I worked for a research facility that had access to a Cray computer for computational fluid dynamics, so my mom thought I could validate. The Bible Code was quite controversial. Short of faith, it may be the first tangible evidence of a higher being.

    I can't recall if it was the Bible Code 1 or 2 that indicated that a power or knowledge would be unleashed around the dawn of the 2nd millennium. I assumed this meant processing power that would allow scholars to unlock more layers of the code within the Torah. Maybe it meant unleashing the collective knowledge of earth's inhabitant? Maybe it meant Google?

    42?
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    Talking of lazy-asses, where's Tom?

    He's not doing his real job is he?

    Oh, the very shame!

    Shall try to get some UK Southampton Boat Show photos for members.
  17. YachtForums

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    When Tom's not taking pics, he works full-time heading up the disaster management team for Verizon Wireless. The man literally lives out of a suitcase! He's away from home so often, his dog thinks he's a burglar when he returns. Not sure where he finds the time to shoot pics, write for magazines, work boat shows, juggle a family life and take care of his house. I always ask him... "when are you going to slow down and get some rest?" His response is always the same... "I'll rest when I'm dead".
  18. YachtForums

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    Speaking of no rest...

    After weeks of code work, the new builder hub pages went live yesterday. On the front page of YF is a builders list which contained a selection of wallpapers. This has been replaced with pages that pull the latest news and reviews from each builder's forum, along with a brief bio. The content is not entirely complete yet, but I'm working on it.

    As of this morning, I have created forums, wrote brief history pages and redirected PR & Feature content to:

    Sunrise
    Icon
    MondoMarine

    It's a tedious process. Hundreds of PRs needing canonical redirects, reformatting, indexing, etc. By the end of today, maybe tomorrow (if I lose power due to Erika), I'll try to finish up:

    Admiral
    Mangusta
    Princess
    Trumpy
    Vitters
    Pendennis

    Kevin and Ron are burning the midnight oil too. They have been identifying thread ID number for 1000's of posts that will get redirects. This is all being done in response to Google's Panda 4.1 which penalizes duplicate content. We're also being penalized for threads with titles that are too short or non-descriptive. In some cases, the body of text within a post lacks descriptive content. As I go through and check each one, they are often posts from new members who don't understand the importance of using good, descriptive verbiage to enhance their results.

    Back to work now...
  19. Ken Bracewell

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    I'm not even sure what this means, and I think I've been around long enough to reach barnacle status.

    Seriously- this has me wondering if some of my posts fit the bill that's causing you so much grief. Could you break it down for me so I can be mindful of this in the future?
  20. YachtForums

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    Not to worry Ken, our senior members aren't the problem. You rarely open new threads anyhow. It's the guys who like to draw attention to their posts, often newcomers trying to illicit a response with sensationalism that isn't related to the subject of the thread.