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Capacity of 404?

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  1. Aimhii, Apr 14, 2015
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    Hi All:

    Just wondering if there is a weight/Passenger capacity Plate anywhere on the vessel?

    If not....Anyone know what the weight/Capacity is for a 2001 404?

    Thanks
  2. NYCAP123, Apr 14, 2015
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  3. Aimhii, Apr 14, 2015
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    Thanks - However that thread is not helpful at all.

    It relates to an incident on a 34' Silverton. The rest was all speculation and no facts by posters....


    I am looking for a actual Vessel Limitation....I assume the displacement value would or should disclose the weight limit...but cannot find this number?
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    Your answer was there, along with an education. The answer is not brand specific. But the short answer to your question is that there is no limitation as long as you have a PFD for each, except if the CG, your insurance company or the authorities determines you to be unsafe because of your load either before or after an incident transpires. There was a lot of talk about changing that after this incident, but not much came of it to the best of my knowledge.
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    Vessels over 20' do not require a weight capacity plate. You are still required to operate the vessel in a safe manner ie using discretion and have a PFD for all aboard.
  6. Aimhii, Apr 15, 2015
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    Roger thanks...... Any reference to this in any Canadian or US Regs I can find?
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    Yes... The U.S. Coast Guard Federal Boat Safety Act of 1971
  8. Aimhii, Apr 15, 2015
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    I couldn't find a reference in the USCG ACT,.....But pretty good reference from an Australian source.....




    Determining a boat’s safe capacity (for powered boats with a flybridge)

    If you own a powered boat with a flybridge, you should place two labels on your boat, one at each steering control area, so they can be seen by the operator at all times. First, determine your boat’s total capacity by using one of the following methods:
    1. Using the Capacity Assessment Table below; 2. Using the manufacturer’s capacity rating, as shown on the manufacturer’s plate or the Australian Builder’s Plate. If this information is not available you can contact the manufacturer directly; 3. Using the formula at the bottom.

    Beam (m)

    2


    2.5


    3


    3.5


    4


    4.5


    5

    5


    4


    4


    5


    5


    6


    6


    n/a

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    5


    5


    6


    6


    7


    7


    8

    7


    5


    6


    7


    7


    8


    8


    9

    8


    6


    7


    8


    8


    9


    10


    10

    9


    7


    8


    9


    10


    10


    11


    12

    10


    8


    9


    10


    11


    12


    12


    13

    11


    n/a


    10


    11


    13


    13


    14


    14

    12


    n/a


    11


    12


    13


    14


    15


    15

    13


    n/a


    12


    13


    14


    15


    16


    17

    14


    n/a


    13


    14


    15


    16


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    18

    15


    n/a


    14


    15


    16


    18


    19


    20

    [​IMG]
    One quarter of your boat’s total capacity can be on the flybridge at any one time. For example, if the boat’s total safe capacity is 12 persons, the flybridge capacity will be three and main deck capacity nine.
    When labeling a boat with a flybridge, ensure the label on the main deck shows only the main deck capacity and the label on the flybridge shows only the flybridge capacity. Both capacities added together represent the boat’s overall safe persons capacity.

    The table above covers boats up to 15 metres in length. If your boat is longer than 15 metres, a conservative capacity estimate can be obtained using the formula:

    Safe persons capacity = 0.6 x length x √beamCapacity Label Fly bridge 2013.indd 2 29/04/2013 3:07:21 PM

    [​IMG]
    Directions for afixing this label

    1. Select a flat highly visible surface area not more than one metre from the boat’s steering controls. If the boat has more than one steering control area, a capacity label will need to be applied in each area.

    2. The surface where the labels are to
    be applied must
    be clean and free from dust, grease and salt and not be less than 10°C to ensure maximum adhesion. For glass, use methylated spirits, not window cleaner.

    3. Peel label off