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W. Palm Beach to Key West Advice please

Discussion in 'Marinas & Waypoints' started by Riverdance, Nov 30, 2014.

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  1. Riverdance

    Riverdance Member

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    My wife and I are planning our first trip from West Palm to Key West in late January or early February. I have zero experience south of Government Cut. 45' Princess cruises 20-22 knots in 3 foot seas or less. Looks like about 250 miles +/-. First stop. No rush. Could even spend a day or two if there are good stops between.
    Question is: Where is a good Marina to spend the night around 70-80 miles south of WPB (Miami is too close unless it gets too lumpy)
    Then a second recommendation 80 miles +/- further south? Fuel, floating docks, restaurant...
    Is Galleon Resort Marina a good spot in Key West or would you suggest others?

    Thanks for your input!
  2. Pascal

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    If as I suspect you draw less than 4 1/2 to 5' stay inside between Miami and marathon as the scenery is better.

    Eliott key (15nm south of mia) is a great anchorage with clear water, worth a stop. Or on a week day pull in to nearby boca Chita (both in biscayne national park).

    One of my favorite marina in the keys is plantation yacht harbor in islamorada on the bay side. Nice park setting.

    Personally I don't find key largo to be worth a stop.

    Further south, hawk resort Duck key has a nice marina although a bit over priced. Marathon has cheap fuel but overall has gone down in the past 10/15 years. Marinas are ok, not much on the land side unless you like waking thru trailer parks.
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    Be very careful running thru the park. The grass beds are federally protected and can ruin your day if caught damaging them.
    Take your time thru the shallows and slow areas. I remember those Dam sea cows near blocking narrow channels thru the upper keys mangroves around & south of Key Largo.
    Run the outside, way out in Hawks Channel (outside the reefs) with the current on your way back.

    It's a fun trip everybody should do once. Unless you have to (wife or charter), you probably won't go back.
  4. Riverdance

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    "Pascal: If as I suspect you draw less than 4 1/2 to 5' stay inside between Miami and marathon as the scenery is better.
    Mrs will like that. She is not fond of the offshore legs. Likes birds and such...
    Stay on the inside to Duck Key or Marathon then outside to Key West?


    Eliott key (15nm south of mia) is a great anchorage with clear water, worth a stop. Or on a week day pull in to nearby boca Chita (both in biscayne national park).
    We don't get many opportunities to anchor out so this sounds outstanding!

    One of my favorite marina in the keys is plantation yacht harbor in islamorada on the bay side. Nice park setting.
    We will stop there on the return trip.

    Personally I don't find key largo to be worth a stop.

    Further south, hawk resort Duck key has a nice marina although a bit over priced. Marathon has cheap fuel but overall has gone down in the past 10/15 years. Marinas are ok, not much on the land side unless you like waking thru trailer parks.

    Appreciate the tips!
  5. Riverdance

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    Be very careful running thru the park. The grass beds are federally protected and can ruin your day if caught damaging them.
    Take your time thru the shallows and slow areas. I remember those Dam sea cows near blocking narrow channels thru the upper keys mangroves around & south of Key Largo.
    OK. My wife will love this route
    Run the outside, way out in Hawks Channel (outside the reefs) with the current on your way back.
    Yes that is the plan. We went on the inside from Charleston to St Augustine 3 trips ago and my wife enjoyed it but the GA section ( Jekyll Creek), never again.

    It's a fun trip everybody should do once. Unless you have to (wife or charter), you probably won't go back.
    This trip is a warm up to get my wife to cross the Gulf Stream to the Bahamas. Spoon feeding. No sea monsters, 15' seas... she has visions of the gulf stream pushing us to Boston.
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    I have only stayed at the Galleon but found it to be terrific - convenient and clean with excellent docks. It books up very far in advance over the next few months so definitely get on it sooner rather than later. I would personally ask for a slip anywhere other than A Dock if they have the space so you are not backed up to the resort (more privacy) and have more sun (their website has the slip layout).

    For a real treat on the way back consider two nights at Little Palm Island, an easy run from Key West. Water's on the skinny side at their docks but manageable - I had no problem with a bit more draft than yours. Very expensive but a very special experience in my opinion, particularly if it's just you and your wife. I'm gun shy about mentioning any services by name here but there is a particular boating concierge service with a good discount there which would more than pay for the service's membership.

    Wherever you go or stay it's a terrific trip all around - enjoy!
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    Good sand/bottom reading training for the both of you in the keys. Good ships shake down. Just too many people (more than 2 is to many).
    Tell da wife, by the time you pass the Rickenbacker bridge, you could already be on the Bahama bank and nobody in sight.
  8. Riverdance

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    Tell da wife, by the time you pass the Rickenbacker bridge, you could already be on the Bahama bank and nobody in sight.
    Ha! Yea we are only 5 miles from the Lake Worth Inlet! Oh well. She did 3 offshore legs on the way south this year which is a leap forward. Co-exist...
    For a real treat on the way back consider two nights at Little Palm Island
    Thanks for the tip. I will add it to the list!
  9. Capt J

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    The inside (west) of the keys is a nice/beautiful run and I too would pop over to the east side in Marathon. It's a fairly easy run, just keep an eye on your markers. It's a lot more scenic and naturistic than Hawk's Channel. Gilbert's is a good stop in Key Largo if you go that direction. If you're a member of a yacht club and take the east side (Hawk's Channel) of Key Largo, Ocean Reef is a beautiful stop, well protected, good restaurants, very nice ammenities. Further South, Hawk's Cay resort is another very nice stop and has a very protected marina with nice ammenities, it is on Duck Cay just south of Marathon. The Galleon is very nice and one of the quieter marina's, I prefer A+B for some reason, but you have resort ammenities at the Galleon (pool) and it's a short walk to Duval street.

    Given your distance requirements, I'd do Gilberts in Key Largo (or another marina right there), then Hawk's Cay Resort, then Galleon. Taking Biscayne bay to the west side of the keys, pop over to Hawks Channel at the 7 mile bridge on the south side of Marathon, and Hawk's Channel to the keys. Another Beautiful stop if you want to extend your trip is Naples and it's a 100nm run from either Marathon Key or Key West.

    Jekyll creek is very shallow at low tide. I do Jekyll creek at mid tide and above and never have an issue with it, keep in mind they have over 8' of tide up there. You just have to run the tides (Mid-high tide) up in GA.
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    Good information. Appreciate it!
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    Keep me posted on your ETA to Key West. We get there for a visit most Winters. If timing works, I'll treat for dinner at Louie's Backyard.
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    Little Palm is very nice but $7 to $8 a foot last time I checked. Restaurant is supposed to be excellent but also pretty expensive.
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    Harborview dock slips are $600 per day and the Sunset dock is $1200 per day. A 39' boat reported being quoted $600. Little Palm is a great place to go if you fully intent to take advantage of all their amenities. Otherwise you might want to anchor nearby and observe from across the way or just bypass. It's more a destination resort than a marina. Oh and you do get one gallon of free water per foot of boat per day allowance.
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    Ocean Reef if $7-8ft also, but at least they give you all the water you want!
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    As a former resident of Duck Key, you might be interested to know that the Marina restaurant burned down about a year and half ago, and shortly after, the entire Resort was sold to new owners, who had plans to deepen the Marina's draft. You might want to call Hawks Cay prior to planning a stop there. The safest way to approach Hawks Cay is from the West side. You'll see a channel marked plainly, when you reach the breakwater, don't panic, but you'll see what appears to be a very small island dead ahead. Turn to Starboard between the "island" and the breakwater, and follow the Canal all the way down heading West, you'll see off to your left the entrance to the Marina. Anyway have a great trip...and keep your eyes on your depth finder..it's real easy to run aground in the Keys if you don't know where your going.

    Capt J is usually spot on...but Duck Key is roughly 15 miles Northeast of Marathon....not South. Duck Key is at Mile marker 60, Marathon starts at Mile marker 54 on U.S.1
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    Little Palm does not allow mascots.
    Neo56 Thanks for the local knowledge. Very Helpful.
    Sea Eric, Are you heading down by boat? I have a long tow line

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    Hi Riverdance, Here's a photo of Duck Key, this is taken from the north looking south. On the left side of the photo (Ocean side) you can see the channel, and the break water. The blue roofed buildings are part of Hawks Cay Resort, the pond you see is a salt water pool, and next to that is the Dolphin swimming area. Closest to the bridge (U.S.1) is the Marina, where the break water bulges out. In the foreground you can see just how shallow the approach to the Marina from that side. There is a channel, but not recommended for first timers. This is an older photo as several canals have been dug through the interior of the island. Duck Key Aerial.jpg
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    To add to what NEO is saying, I always go in the cut all of the way on the left side of the picture (ocean side), that is pretty straightfoward with depth. There is a spot in front of the dolphin pens that is 5' at low tide which would be just above where the round thing juts out with the blue roofs all of the way to the right of the photo, the marina is just above that 300 yards in that basin all of the way right and just below the road that goes to the bridge. It's a nice stop, whether it be overnight or for a few days.
    There are also a few good marina's with good restaurants on the South Side of Marathon, so you just go through the 7 mile bridge, do a U turn around a shallower area on the east side of the bridge and enter the channel for those.

    BTW, you have a beautiful English Lab.
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    Didn't know they had a fire. I haven't been there in 3 or 4 years because it s too shLlow for 6' draft. Indeed there is a 5' hump by the dolphin lagoon.. Last time I had to go in there we tied up in the basin on port sized right before the dolphin lagoon and had just enough water.

    Apparently DERM EPA and various tree huggers have been preventing any dredging for years even though it s really just that one spot and the basin that needs a little dredging,
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    I know, if it weren't for them not being able to dredge, it would be an excellent stop for deeper draft vessels. I like the location, marina, and ammenities. But last time I went there, I brought a 75' Hatteras MY and was on pins and needles and then was stuck there because we couldn't leave for another 4 hours after we would have liked to leave the next day because of tide.