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'93 Carver 350 aft-deck dodger panel repair

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  1. NVeroske, Sep 27, 2014
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    Arrgh! My neighbor crashed into my port side aft deck dodger panel and put a 7" crack in it. I've got an idea on repairing it and avoiding having to refit all my aft deck enclosure. If I can't find and entire panel, I only really need a section of panel about 10"x12". So even if you've got a broken one lying around, that I can get four 3"x10" pieces cut from it, I would be very happy.

    Also, if anyone knows, specifically, what the material is and if a particular adhesive will bond two pieces, please let me know. The local plastics fabricators tell me there are 78 different adhesives for various specific types of "plastics".

    Nick, Portland, OR
  2. NEO56, Sep 27, 2014
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    Hi Nick, is it a crack or a hole? If it's a crack couldn't you just put some matting behind it and fill in the front with some gelcoat? I'm guessing you have pieces missing...and need a little more material.
  3. NVeroske, Sep 27, 2014
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    Hi Neo56,

    It is a crack and no pieces are missing. I will need to drill a small hole at the end of the crack to stop it from spreading. My thought is to glue some reinforcing pieces to both sides of the dodger with a cap around the sloped edge of the dodger. I would do this to both the port and starboard sides to make the repair look like a standard reinforcement. Initially I thought the material was fiberglass and had a fiberglass guy look at it. He said it is some "plastic" material and that he did not have the skills to repair it. For now, I'm trying to find exact match material for the reinforcing patches.

    Thank you. Nick
  4. NEO56, Sep 27, 2014
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    Nick, Well that opens up a whole new can of worms! If they are plastic, and the starboard side is still intact, why don't you take the starboard side off, and take it to a shop who could make a reverse mold and build two new replacement parts that look more original? It would be a one off type of thing but a good fiberglass guy could make a mold and build you two new replacements? Maybe that would be more money than you're willing to spend....just a thought.
  5. NVeroske, Sep 27, 2014
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    Neo56,

    I appreciate your thoughts. It gets complicated as the pop-rivets that connect the dodger to the stainless railing are impossible to find and I don't want to replace ALL the rivets for almost 30' of dodger with stainless bolts, nor do I want to have sections of the dodger in a different stage of "aging".

    Thanks, again! Nick
  6. NEO56, Sep 27, 2014
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    Well that concludes the extent of my ideas...time to hand it off to the really smart guys here.
  7. RB480, Sep 28, 2014
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    The rivets are actually very easy to find. I buy them locally at menards, 24 piece for 3.99.

    The material is called cyro acrylite and is actually an acrylic. I have had a few broken on my 370. If you go to their website you can find a distributor near you.
  8. 1000 islands, Sep 28, 2014
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    Sorry for the dumb question, but what is an aft panel dodger ?

    Picture would help
  9. NVeroske, Sep 28, 2014
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    It is the plastic "surround" for the aft deck. I hope the photos attached. The portside panel has the 7" crack in it.

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  10. g36, Sep 29, 2014
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    i know your boat is a 93 but it seems recently i read somewhere that carver would still remake these. i have a 97 405 i do not need them now but thought it was good that they would if i ever did.
    i know it seems kind of crazy but you might call them and ask. if you do would you please update here that they would or would not remake them
  11. NVeroske, Mar 17, 2015
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    Hello g36,
    You were correct! I was able to obtain both a new dodger panel and the white snap rivets from Carver through the person below. The panel was $550. Connection to the molded corners was easy: Silicone.

    Bret Temple
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    Marquis Yachts

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    RB480: Thank you, also for your good input as to the material!

    Best wishes for cruising 2015. Portland spring arrived early! Nick
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  12. NVeroske, Mar 25, 2015
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  13. NVeroske, Mar 25, 2015
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    All: Disappointment continues. Carver sent a manufactured aftermarket panel and the color is off, more similar to an older Tollycraft. (photo) Bret at Marquis/Carver said it would fade to white but he wouldn't give a time frame and I'm not buying it. Thank you, RB480 for your material knowledge. It appears I can get the panel manufactured locally by a custom fabricator

    . New Panel 1.jpg
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  14. g36, Mar 26, 2015
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    my 405 probably has this same color and panel materials i'm glad this is being discussed some more.
    rb480 could you post the part number at menards that you are using for the white rivets. the ones i pulled up were 1 1/2 length $6.39. are they the same color or some other white than the carver originals? these would be a bit cheaper than carver if the color is good
    thanks
    sorry about your panels from carver nveroske
  15. RB480, Mar 26, 2015
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    I will be on the boat later today and take a picture. They match the other white that were on the boat exactly.
  16. g36, Mar 26, 2015
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    ok thanks
    if you find the menards number let me know i will be ordering some new ones probably replace them all while i am at it
  17. NVeroske, Mar 26, 2015
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  18. NVeroske, Mar 26, 2015
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    I was able to get the correct white rivets from Bret at Carver no problem. Expensive at $.39 each. I got a few dozen.
  19. RB480, Mar 27, 2015
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    The only real number I see on the package is 540-1044 and they are 1/4" X 3/4". They are in a 25 pack and they say they are packaged in Sheboygan, WI which makes sense since that is probably the manufacturer Carver used in the first place.

    Also, the panel of Acrylite that I have and have used to repair a section on my boat is a perfect match. There is no part number on the acrylite packaging though to determine actual color. I found a place on the east coast who is a distributor for cyro and I had planned on having them send me some samples of their white products to check against mine but I haven't gotten that far since life has gotten in the way. They have about 25 different whites with different opacities so I want to be sure I have a good match.
  20. timjet, Mar 27, 2015
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    On my 98 Carver 355 the plastic white rivets that attach the dodger boards to the stainless steel rails got brittle from the sun. Cruising in the Bahamas a couple of years ago doing about 18 kts the dodger board on the port side came loose due to the wind load and brittle rivets and fell in the water taking the aluminum corner piece with it and the small section of dodger board on the aft next to the stairs just like NVeroske as shown in his first picture. There was probably over $1000 of dodger board and aluminum corner piece laying in 10 ft of gin clear water. With difficulty I dove and retrieved the lost section. Once home I removed all the plastic rivets and replaced with SS screws and acorn nuts drilled through the stainless rails.
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