| Kleven | 107M | "Andromeda" ex. "Ulysses" | 2015/17 |

I can not recall correctly but I think the fairing, painting etc on "Quattroelle" from bare steel took at least 10 months or even more.
But I do remember a discussion here about a paint job of "A" which can very well take up to 18 months. I guess it also depends on the paint system and if they get it right at the first time. Which seems to be not that easy, it is definitely hard (physical) work.

But I would also guess that this has got a positive impact on budget and construction time.

Anyway I leave it to the knowledgeable members here to give a profund and exact answer. Hopefully as I find this interesting as well.

I hope their engine fitters have more tools available to them than a big crescent wrench.

If this photo is supposed to represent the standard of their mechanical work it raises a few questions.

Don't worry, it is a Bacho wrench...

Ah so ... does that mean this is a Bacho moon in Swedish?

Bacho are probably the best of the adjustable wrenches, if I recall correctly they were the first to have a marked size and the worm turns the opposite way to its competitors.

That said, in reality Adjustables should be kept under lock and key and only used when nothing else is available not as a convenience tool.

Funny you mentioned that ... I was using a large "crescent wrench" to hold a pipe union on a boat a couple of days ago and every time I tried to tighten it the darn thing got looser. It took a moment to realize that the thread was opposite.

I didn't notice a name on it but will have a look next time I am on the boat.

Hi,

Stop the Bus......

The correct spelling in BAHCO

They even offer spare parts for them: http://extranet.snaeurope.com/ProdBlock.aspx?sectionID=21&CatalogueID=5

Scroll down a bit for the spares.

You are right, it was initially B.A. Hjorth & Co 125 years ago, when they got the rights to produce the patented adjustable wrench from the inventor J.P Johansson.

So in Sweden we think all the copies are turning the wrong way...

Talking from practice..Depending on the deflection of surfaces and the paint system for fairing/topcoating it takes around +-30 hours per sqm( for a well experienced paint teams, and respecting (!)Paint Specs)

When talking about vessels above 80-90m then you need a paint applicator that is used to large volume surface applications.

Sounds expensive. I have always just used a rattle can or dipped the handle in this stuff:

Fairing and painting a steel hull adds quite a bit of time and money to the boat.

And aesthetics..which is what Yachting is mostly about!

Even when one of the industry leaders fairs and paints, the results are not always what you expect.

Yacht Painting deserves time and attention to detail, no rush jobs..

But I think an Expedition yacht of the size we're talking about. An unfaired hull fits in. It is an Expedition yacht after all. I see it kind of like putting a flawless paintjob on an army tank......

Hi,

Show me a yard where there is enough of each that produces a perfect job.

I can PM you my e mail addy if you like as I might no longer be posting here by the time this miracle surfaces.

My comment was in ref to the blue topcoated surface picture, where we can identify some problems such as:framing effect( most probably construction problem -not enough internal framing maybe?, a non-acceptable fairing above the fender bar,( which could have been seen and fixed at least after showcoating)and not correct gloss appearance in overall! Problems that can be avoided if there is a mutual standard expectation set up in the project( applicator, Yard and paint consultant)

Not enough reason to point only a Yard or applicator of not giving enough time and attention,it is a combination!There are big projects delivered on the very right quality ( much better than what we see in the picture) even if not very perfect. I know projects where there is good motivation from all involved parties , the expected standards clear from the very first date , strict controls during the process and final results really encouraging.


We should not become boring here on the forums to readers ,by going so deep in technical language. Always welcomed to PM me..

I think it is worth becoming "boring" because the photo is of a yacht taken very shortly after delivery from one of the most highly regarded yards in Europe.

I have my own ideas about how that finish was allowed to see the light of day and few of them are related to paint chemistry or meteorology but my point is the best paint consultant in the world isn't going to the pyramid of issues which lead to what that photo illustrates.

You wouldn't be a paint consultant by any chance?

The Golden Shadow, built in 1995 by the no longer existing Campbell Shipyards in San Diego was "not faired". The steel workmanship was remarkable for this yard that specialized in building Tuna Seiners (probably the most "fair" commercial vessel types built) and you would not visually see enough "unfairness" to ever register. And yes, she had many complex curves and shape in her beautiful sheer line.

Was able to board her under construction and she was done absolutely perfect for the intended role of this vessel. My all time favorite expedition/support vessel:

http://*********************/motor-yacht-2788/golden-shadow.htm