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  1. Uk4life

    Uk4life Member

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    I have a 1987 Carver Mariner 3297 with a Mermaid Marine Air reverse cycle a/c unit.

    I am wondering what to use to clean the inside of the a/c unit and the hoses. There is a lot of silt in our man made harbour off the river. We purchased the boat from Lake Erie and the first year we had it the a/c could freeze you out but not anymore......


    I have cleaned the coils on the outside of the unit. I clean the water strainer frequently but I know the insides of the unit and hoses must have a lot of build up which is reducing the cooling capabilities of the unit. I figure there must be some cleaner to use, while the boat is in the water, that I could pump into the unit and let sit overnight.

    I appreciate any suggestions.
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    Hi,

    I don't know of any cleaner that will dissolve silt overnight.

    If you can reverse the water flow and backflush the system that will be a start.

    The loss of efficiency of your system may be owing to a number of different things.

    Your gas might be low.

    If the water temp from where you got it from to where you have it now is way different this can also cause operational issues.

    Any of the commercial cleaners I am familiar with that are used in AC Coils etc are designed to be pumped around and re circulated not left overnight.
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    Trac makes a good descalination fluid, you'll have to pull the a/c discharge and get a pump and a 5 gallon bucket and pump it in a circle. But the Trac stuff is what most people are using these days. Just follow the directions on the bottle.
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    As Capt J suggested a 5 gal bucket circulating the cleaning mix with a small bilge pump is th way to do it. You can use Trac or Ph-ospho. Some use diluted muriatic acid but that s nasty stuff and you can't just dump it overboard.

    In warm water, I get it done every 18 to 24 months.

    Back flushing can help, it will remove the silt but not the growth inside the tubes which reduce heat transfer. If back flushing make sure you out the other end of those in a bucket to catch the stuff and not just push it to the pump, especially any bit of shell that may get loose
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    I back flushed mine last year with a hose, (not full pressure)

    some awful stinky black gook came out and the ACs were a lot colder for the rest of the season, I have to do it again this year
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    Triton Marine makes an AC cleaner, said to be environmentally friendly, for this exact application... either let it stand for a while or recirculate...

    -Chris
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    Great information, as always!

    I was planning to recirculate the cleaner was just unsure what to use......knowing I would probably spill some I didn't want to use the acid as was suggested by a few dock mates. I will start off by back flushing while the cleaner is on order and will advise of the results.

    Thanks everyone!
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    I went to Triton website and saw several cleaners but not an a/c specific cleaner....suggestions?
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    Hi,

    Try back flushing before you buy the descaler.

    Descaler will not remove grass, plastic bags, Impeller parts,silt or sand
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    This stuff:

    Cleaners: Triton Marine A/C System Flush - De-Scaler, 1 Gal.

    Don't know that site, it was just the first useful search return.

    I think the website you went to probably isn't the same folks, but I can't remember the punctuation on John's URL. (He's a member of our owners club.)

    Edit: Found it: http://www.tritongreen.com/marine.html

    And I note it's not the clearest website in the free world. If you go to the Products page you'll see AC and Engine flushes as separate products. If you go to the Engine Flush page it talks about both AC and Engine at the same time. I suspect best to call 'em to order... and while you're at it, suggest they update their website :)

    Pressure flushing helps, too. Either by temporarily removing hoses from the pump outlet so everything discharges nicely... or by backflushing from a thru-hull. Latter works best of you have multiple discharge thru-hulls on one system, so backflush through one outlet will discharge from the other outlet.

    -Chris

    -Chris
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    My seawater side is filtered thru groco baskets. Would I still need to back flush? Never done it.
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    If particles of sand.silt etc are smaller than the holes in your filter screen they will pass through.
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    Our installation is probably similar: raw water enters thru-hull, passes through a sea strainer, on to the AC's water pump, from there to two different ACs, and finally out two different discharges.

    The sea strainer doesn't fix everything, in our case; we still have to flush the lines between AC water pump and discharges about once/year.

    Your situation depends on your environment...

    -Chris
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    Yep, I went to the wrong website.

    Think I'll give Triton green a try since it is "green".... (yea right, it's less than half the price compared to Trac)!

    Thanks Capt J and ranger42c for the links.
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    It s no just the sand, silt, etc that makes it thru the strainer but most importantly the growth that sticks to the inside of the coils and reduce the heat transfer from the gas
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    thanks fellas,

    I'm going to give it try when I get the boat back from its Man 1500 hour $ervice. I have three separate sets of pumps and lines.

    I'll see what comes out of each?