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Discussion in 'Carver Yacht' started by 1000 islands, May 4, 2013.

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  1. 1000 islands

    1000 islands Member

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    When my mechanic was on the boat looking at the battery charger, he checked the steering and it is now good to go.

    Thanks to everyone for their input
  2. K1W1

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    Hi,

    Pleased to read that things seem to be under control in that dept now.

    Did you happen to ask him what was wrong and how he "fixed" it?

    Next time it happens you might not be anywhere near a friendly knowledgeable mechanic and might have to have a go at it yourself.
  3. Old Phart

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    What K1W1 stated; however, did not realize this info was of a great national secrecy and you would have to kill us if you tell us the solution. :rolleyes:
  4. 1000 islands

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    Once I talk to him I will post the solution here
  5. 1000 islands

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    I spoke with the mechanic and there was air in the lines........

    Now we are on vacation on the Trent Severn Canal and there is hydraulic fluid leaking from the steering wheel. I have determined it is coming from what ever the three lines are attached to inside the helm.

    So my only to ensure I will have steering is to continually monitor the reservoirs and add fluid as necessary and pump up the air pressure....my wife is nervous as heck., she is worried we will crash into Alcock ...LOL
  6. NYCAP123

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    Is the leak coming from the lines or the seals? If the lines can you tell where? If the seals, it's not a huge job or should be fixable by a mechanic along the canal. The procedure was discussed recently by I believe Pascale in another thread. If it's at the end of one of the lines you may have enough extra to just clip off the end and reattach. If it's further down the line you may be able to seal it with Atomic Tape or some such. These are temporary fixes until you can get to have the line changed. You should be fine as long as you have enough fluid to keep it filled, but monitor it closely. And remember that you can steer your boat with the trim tabs and throttles while cruising and with your gears when going slow. Sounds like a good time to practice this. In the mean time let your wife know that you have Plan B and everything will be ok.

    This isn't what I was looking for but it might give you some insights: http://www.yachtforums.com/forums/chris-craft-yacht/10351-helm-pump-broken-what-2.html
  7. 1000 islands

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    It is definitely from under the steering wheel, although the fluid is now running out from the joint of the fly bridge by the doors into the cabin and running out the rear of the aft deck.

    I'm not looking forward to 2 days of steering with out rudders, but as the saying goes....a man will do what a man has to do...LOL

    Hopefully there will be help in Trenton, because Lake Ontario can be a ***** with having to travel in following seas to get back home.
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    That's sounds like a lot of fluid to keep up with. Why are you not just getting it fixed right now? There comes a time to tell the wife that the vacation is over, maybe sending her home, and getting on you knees. It sounds like you're there. Wipe it down and turn the wheel a couple of times so you can see where the problem is. If the problem is in the steering unit look to see what kind it is, and take some pics. Have the part sent in. If you're not the mechanical type bring one in and have him bring the part. You're going to pay for the repair there or at your home port. Add in the cost of cleanup, damage you could cause if you hit something and injuries if someone slips on the fluid, and bringing in a mechanic gets cheap. I once came down the Chesapeake with no steering. Entirely doable, but when I got to that night's marina that was the time for repairs. We went no further till done. Proceeding doesn't really make sense unless you want to get to a certain place where the repair can be done. In the mean time stop the fluid from traveling throughout your boat and see if there is a way to minimize leakage.
    If you need a recomendation for a mechanic in the area PM Rodger. Maybe he can recomend someone close to where you are.
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    After leaving my boat in during hurricane Sandy and the rudder hitting the dock or whatever, I drove to winter storage [about 1 mile] with no steering, only 2 engines. The seal behind the steering wheel had to be replaced; about $60 for the seal kit, and 2 hours labor or so. No problems since.
  10. 1000 islands

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    The unit has been re-fitted with seals but it still won't work....it still spins like a roulette wheel and the mechanic hes his hands up..%@#$%#&^#*@#(@(

    So tomorrow morning I am going to try to bleed it myself.

    Wish me luck
  11. NYCAP123

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    In changing over he had to stop the fluid flow. Did he take off the plug or clamp? You have enough fluid in the tank? It's pumped up to proper pressure? It's not still leaking? Then yep, you need to bleed it. Stay calm. You're almost there.:D

    Did you run home or get the work done in Trenton?
  12. K1W1

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    Hi,

    Is this the same "brain surgeon" who passed the system as fit for purpose previously?

    Did you or your "mechanic" Carry out the following as suggested by Pascal on 05/09/13?

    After pumping the system you need to prime the helms by turning in one direction till it stops then the other way till to the other stop

    Can you fill the helm station with oil to at least get everything wet before you start pumping the system up to pressure and turning the wheel?
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    I have now got a different mechanic to look at it and he is going to change out the fluid in the next few days.

    I'll post when it is done and hopefully it will be as it should.