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Even commercial ships sink

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  1. K1W1

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  2. AlfredZ

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    They sure do!

    Hopefully those lost will be found, may those dead rest in peace, and welcome back to those saved.

    Lets see how many around here will think the skipper was an idiot sailing st such weather or choosing such a path!

    Thanks for sharing.
  3. Marmot

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    It was a collision.
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    I have read that part in the article like you did even if I did not reference it in my statement.

    Attend to your personal deficit away from me if you may! :)

    Cheers,
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    And this one too?

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  6. Marmot

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    Somebody screwed up.

    Considering there are something around 55,000 merchant ships over 500 tons trading around the world 24 hours a day 7 days a week year after year in all weather and conditions, I would say the men and women in the merchant fleet don't have a great deal to apologize for.

    If you want to factor in the 3/4 of a million container movements in the port of Long Beach alone each month ... and that is just one port out of thousands ... there are hundreds of millions of container shifts each day around the world that don't lead to any kind of accident ... that kind of screwup happens a few times a year around the world. Particularly in the feeder trade where cargo is handled by the ship's own lifting gear is the norm. Not all boxes are accurately marked as to weight and even the biggest and best operations put the ship in precarious balance all too often when working cargo.
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    Hi,

    Given the number if ships and their movements I agree that percentage wise casualties are few and far between.

    This is not the first car carrier to be speared and sunk in the same area, there was a Wilhelmsen one called Tricolor a few years ago that suffered the same fate.

    Technology was used to cut it up that was later used on the Kursk.
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    Commercial ships sink ALL the time on a global basis, 1 - 2 per week depending on what year you are looking at. Talking about freighters, tug/barges, containerships, ferries, fish boats, etc.

    You have to be out of your mind to purchase a ticket and board a ferry/passenger vessel in some of the 3rd world countries, your safety is in the hands of suspect operators to say the least......
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    Have been on more than one desperate rescue... when some rust bucket of merde sinks and leaves the crud crew in the water. It's irresponsible and puts Coast Guard and Navy personnel in peril often... or at the very least costing a lot of in bother and money.

    I remember one, now 40 odd years ago:
    Rust bucket sinking way way off Hatteras in beautiful weather (as rare as that is)... crew going in water... H3 from Elizabeth City on way but way way beyond max. radius... Navy ship speeding at 30+ knots to get to the H3 to refuel it... arrives with maybe 5 minutes flight time left... H3 just barely refuels before tanks dry... H3 continues on... then later running dry again... H3 gives up in darkness... lands on Navy ship... ship continues at Flank to general location... very early mourning crew found clinging to flotsam with sharks circling... all saved.
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    RESPECT to those who put their life in jeopardy for others in that big ocean out there ;)
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