Yacht fire in Marina of Sanremo Italy

It was a Pershing 90 and a Maiora 24 a newspaper reported. The Maiora was towed out of the port.

it would be rude to merge this thread in with that other thread, wouldn't it?

Apparently the fire started out by stupudity from the crew of one of the yachts with British flag MY Ibris the Pershing 90 who where making a barbeque and high fire spilled and the yacht started to burn without control.

Here is some photos of the Maiora 24 on fire. Il rogo dei due yacht di Portosole: aperta un'inchiesta per incendio colposo. Marinaio è in Francia - Riviera24.it

Hi,

I was not aware that there was a thread about crew stupidity, there are of course the Darwin Awards but they do not have a dedicated thread on here.

If the fire was caused by an out of control BBQ there is little chance that the Shipyard Quality was directly to blame unless it was a built in grill that set fire to its surroundings during normal usage.

The grill on Irbis is an electric grill on the aft deck starboard side. One report I saw mentions a galley fire so there are some conflicting reports and plenty of speculation.

Yes, one newspaper said it was a young Swede who dropped frozen kebab into boiling oil and it almost exploded, who knows...

Sad...I just hope that nobody got hurt

Cheers,

Fortunately no injuries reported. A deckhand was onboard as the only crew member looking after her. Details are sketchy still.

This story is not finished...

I know the captain who brought the boat to San Remo.

FYI, 1 week before the boat had to leave my friend/captain checked the insurance papers (The insurance was expired...!!! hopefully he arranged everything before leaving!!)

The deckhand was the only one onboard.

At this time he still doesn't want to speak to the Italian authorities. (His father is in contact with a lawyer)

Will keep you posted

Shouldn't the captain have known when the insurance was due to expire and not 'noticed' that it was expired? Isn't that one of the first things you check when you take over a yacht?
I know that the insurance was renewed but had it not been, who's fault would it have been??

He wasn't the original captain.
He was only appointed to bring the boat to Italy.

Ok, so if you're only a temporary captain you don't have to worry about insurance or any other official documentation for that matter?

As written in a couple of posts above, it was the temporary captain who discovered the expired insurance...

Sure enough AMG. It doesn't matter if he was temporary or permanent. Before any boat leaves the dock, the insurance must be checked if there is no insurance the boat doesn't move. Please correct me if i am wrong but at the end of the day if the captain moved the boat without insurance and something happened he will be kept liable.

There is no law stating that a privately owned vessel for private use needs to have insurance in that size range. Some owners do not insure their vessels. Stupid, probably, but reality.

Hi,

At what size does the law say insurance is compulsory ?

I know of an Owner who has an 80m yacht that is self insured.

I stated that there is no requirement for insurance in that size range. Since I am not knowledgable about all of the flag state requirements on yachts >500GT, I put that in there.

Some area's in the US require insurance such as in Hawaii if the vessel is moored there. I am not sure if there are any requirements for insurance with all of the different flag states if the vessel is over a certain size such as 200GT for example. And also some flag states may require crew coverage over a certain tonnage as well, I am not knowledgable about all of the different flag states.

Regardless of whether insurance is required by various flag states or countries where yachts are located, I certainly would not be comfortable driving an un-insured vessel and potentially exposing myself or anybody else to any personal liability.

There is far more to the job than driving the vessel and it is surprising that some captains don't realize it. I believe professional captains have a responsibility to the vessel, the owner, guests and their crew. That means making sure that all are properly protected in the event of an accident. After all, accidents do happen!

Professional captains need to step up and uphold the standards even if it means educating their owners or walking away. While I am not saying that it is the case in this instance, I do believe that standards are slipping in the industry and sadly the 'professional' aspect is lacking. Owners are pushing the boundaries and their captains are to blame for allowing them to do it!