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New Inland waterway user fees???

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  1. Pascal

    Pascal Senior Member

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    has anyone seen details on this little gem?

    from http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/omb/budget/fy2012/assets/jointcommitteereport.pdf


    Reform inland waterways funding. In
    allocating funds within the Army Corps of
    Engineers (Corps) budget, the Administration
    gives priority to those projects that offer the
    greatest returns to the Nation in achieving
    economic, environmental, and public safety
    objectives. This includes providing priority
    funding for the maintenance of existing highperforming
    inland waterways. However, it has
    had to limit capital spending because the current
    way of producing the funds that support
    the user-financed share of these costs is not
    working as intended.

    The Corps constructs and rehabilitates the
    locks, dams, channels, and other features that
    enable barges to travel along 12,000 miles of
    developed inland waterways. Some of these
    waterways, such as the Mississippi and Ohio
    Rivers and the Illinois Waterway, support a
    high level of commercial traffic. In 1986, the
    Congress authorized use of an existing inland
    waterways fuel tax (now 20 cents per
    gallon) to finance 50 percent of the cost of
    most inland waterways capital investments.
    The general taxpayer pays all of the remaining
    capital costs and all of the operation and
    maintenance (O&M) costs of inland waterways
    navigation.
    While spending for capital investments on
    these waterways has increased significantly
    in recent years, revenue from the fuel tax
    has declined. The fuel tax now only covers
    about eight percent of the total costs that the
    Corps spends on behalf of the users, which
    make barge transportation possible (including
    O&M, all of which the general taxpayer pays).
    By contrast, non-Federal partners in all of the
    other Corps programs contribute on average
    35 percent or more.
    To address these concerns, the Administration
    supports enactment of a new user financing
    structure for the inland waterways to
    supplement the existing diesel fuel tax. This
    new fee would generate about $1 billion of additional
    revenue into the Inland Waterways
    Trust Fund over the next 10 years. This additional
    revenue would enable a more robust
    level of funding for safe, reliable, highly costeffective,
    and environmentally sustainable
    waterways, and contribute to deficit reduction
    and economic growth.
  2. dennismc

    dennismc Senior Member

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    User fees

    It always amazes me that there seems to be a shortfall in funding in just about everything, the overspending in the past now means less $$$$ to go around to fund the massive amount of Gov.t programs, two choices, prioritize or increase revenue.

    The problem with continually increasing revenues, it leads to Gov.t belief that the revenues is a never ending stream, guess what....it has dried up.

    so, they go to the third option....borrow what may never be paid back...

    Best option ?? balanced budget except in the face of imminent danger from invasion.
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    Milton Friedman said: “If you put the federal government in charge of the Sahara Desert, in 5 years there'd be a shortage of sand”
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    That is a good one, let's see what else might happen there;

    The cost of flood insurance would probably go up.

    Large corporate farms would receive water diverted from the Nile or the Niger in order to grow subsidized watermelons.
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    Hi,

    It might be happening already if this e mail is anything to go by:

    The Irish have solved their own fuel problems. They imported 50 Million tonnes of sand from the Arabs & they're going to drill for their own oil.
  6. Capt J

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    I was told that they dredge and maintain area's of the ICW based upon how much fuel is sold in that area and that was how they calculated usage. Someone in Georgia was telling me that's the reason the ICW is getting so bad and there are so many areas that need to be dredged there, is because since a lot of boaters are avoiding it, fuel sales are down, so they think that it's used less, and therefore gets less maintanence over the years......when the reason it gets less traffic is because there are a lot of spots that aren't maintained at 12' at MLW, and a lot of commercial traffic is avoiding it as well.........
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    Georgia AICW

    The prime reason that the Georgia section has been neglected is the Georgia delegation in Congress has refused to make it a priority.
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    Trust fund? Safe, reliable, highly cost effective???

    I would bet those words are similar to the ones they use to describe the Social Security Trust Fund...which we all know does not exist.

    I've never seen the gubmint do anything right or in a cost effective way. Now they want us to believe they could do it with this? Not likely.

    They never seem to realize that when they raise fees, usage goes down and so does total revenue. How about cutting bacx on welfare. If they did that....well, that's a whole nuther thread! :eek:
  9. maldwin

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    Will my EZ PASS work? Or is this an employment plan for toll collectors?
  10. NYCAP123

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    Things will cost what they cost and the money will be gotten. Just look at Greece if you think there's any choice. Heck, my cable bill just went up 333% and gas? Well that's a whole different thread that's already been written. 12' Capt. J? I didn't think it was mandated to be that deep. In fact I thought it was 6'. There's sure a few spots shallower than that at low tide even.
    Like everything else, get less pay more. Although I did cut off my cable.
  11. Pascal

    Pascal Senior Member

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    It is supposed to be 12' from Norfolk to Miami... Printed on every chart

    I don't think anybody objects to paying for dredging nd maintaining waterways the concern is that those new fees are buried in a proposal presented as deficit reduction plan. I wonder which one it is and hope those fees/taxes if enabled are indeed used to pay for the waterways not something else (not holding my breath though...)
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    Right you are. In fact all the way to Brownsville. Except south of Ft. Pierce: ("provides for a least depth of 12 feet from Norfolk, VA, (I.W.Mile 0.0) to Fort Pierce, FL, (I.W.Mile 965.6), thence 10 feet to Miami, FL, (I.W.Mile 1089.0), and thence 7 feet to Key
    West, FL, (I.W.Mile 1243.8). The Miami to Key West section of the waterway has been completed only as far as Cross Bank (I.W.Mile 1152.5); the remainder has been deferred for restudy. Although no work has been performed on this section of the waterway, a channel, marked in accordance with I.W. markings, leads from Cross Bank to Big Pine Key along the northwesterly side of the Florida Keys. At Big Pine Key, the waterway bifurcates going north through Florida Bay or souththrough Hawk Channel to Key West. The channel has a controlling depth of about 5 feet"). I hadn't looked that up in years as the boats I run are happy if they have 6'. With reduced barge traffic on the east coast section of the ICW I'd have to imagine the situation will be low priority in these times. One eye on the depth finder for the foreseeable future.:(